How to cure RI - Page 2

VI Reptiles · 10-09-04, 10:54 AM

ok, ok, I just thought of something! Im going down tommowrow and will bring it in to the vet and have him checked out and whatever they wanna do they can do. Im guessing its worth it because it could be a female which I need and if it dies I will have to start all over again. The snakes only had it for 3 days, can it still die by tommowrow?

BoidKeeper · 10-09-04, 11:13 AM

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ugh, to go to a vet I have to drive 70km.......... probably $40 on fuel there then another 100+ just to pay for the medicine etc.... Is it worth it even??? $100 snake and pay $140 for it?

I think you should have thought about this before getting a snake. The price you pay for a living thing is irrelevant. Of course it's worth it. That snake didn't ask to live with you and if you can't provide it with everything it needs than maybe you shouldn't have it. These animals are not expendable. Keeping them is a privilege, not a right. You have taken on the responsibility of caring for another living thing and in doing so you owe it everything it needs to be safe from harm and healthy. It's sick in your care than it's your responsibility to make it better in your care.

How do you even know the snake is sick?

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Im guessing its worth it because it could be a female which I need and if it dies I will have to start all over again.

You're guessing it's worth it because it's a female???? It's not a stock or a bond or cash cow; it's a living thing. "You'll" have to start all over! What about the poor animal that lost its life because you didn't put in the time needed to know how to care for the animals properly? If you are asking whether or not it will be dead by tomorrow that tells me you don't know much about RIs. You came here and asked us to do your work for you.
I hate like heck to say this but buddy I think unless you change your attitude real fast you should sell your snakes to someone who either knows what they are doing or has what you appear to be lacking, a willingness to learn for themselves.
Yes we were all newbies once and in many ways I still am but no one held my hand or read the snake books to me. Why should we do it for you?
Your animals are not investments they are animals, work on your attitude buddy.
Trevor
PS
You're trying to breed these animals so you can sell them obviously. Well best of luck to you selling them in the highly competitive Canadian market where reputation is everything.

VI Reptiles · 10-09-04, 11:52 AM

I'l do my best to take him in tommowrow and have him checked out and whatever the vet will want to do with him! Im not into reptiles because of the money, I like them so much and I hate it when my animals get sick!!! What I was saying is that because he/she is my first snake I wanna keep it and maybe breed it later. Ok, one thing is I just didnt go to the petstore and buy the damn thing! First my parents would never never ever let me get a snake for 2 years so between then and when I got the snake I researched them over and over again. Then again maybe the snake isnt sick! but id rather take it in and be lucky then have to deal with a dead snake. I agree im quite a nooby but I wont quit because my reptile dies. Its trial and error when your a nooby. My parents also said that if my snake dies I wont get another one! I will do my best to keep it alive for a long long time.

VI Reptiles · 10-09-04, 12:00 PM

ok, I looked at a care sheet and I looked at a part called "is my bp sick"? My bp isnt breathing with his mouth open or is blowing bubbles or has mucus in his mouth! he is just sometimes makes a weezing sound and thats it! Maybe a very minor case of RI??? He had a retained shed but got it off and thats what i thought was why. Would he still be making the sound if he had got off the retained shed?

mykee · 10-09-04, 12:11 PM

GO TO A VET!

VI Reptiles · 10-09-04, 12:17 PM

I cant today but monday I can!

marisa · 10-09-04, 12:24 PM

Take this advice and you will never have problems again.

Get a job. A decent one.

Wow suddenly, you'll have money for transportation to vets, money for pets, and money to treat those pets if need be. If you do NOT have your own source of cash readily available, breeding snakes will NEVER happen for you. Never.

If you are in school, and do not have time for a good job, then it's simply not the right time to be thinking about pets because school is more important.

Marisa

Tim_Cranwill · 10-09-04, 12:53 PM

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Originally posted by VI Reptiles
First my parents would never never ever let me get a snake for 2 years so between then and when I got the snake I researched them over and over again.

Then why is it you're asking some of the most basic questions? Were you researching hunsbandry or how much each morph is worth?

BoidKeeper · 10-09-04, 12:59 PM

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Its trial and error when your a nooby.

Maybe if you are a newbie to an undiscovered species. But if you have a ball or a corn and you can read...there is no trial and error. The trial and error with this species occured before you were born.
If you've done your reaserch like you claim you have you wouldn't be asking some of the questions that you are asking.
If you did your reaserch you would know that sometimes snakes wise during a shed cycle.
Best of luck on Tuesday I hope it's nothing.
In the mean time maybe you could help us help you.
What are you using for a cage, type, size etc?
How are you heating it?
What are you using to measure the temperature in the cage?
What is the temp on the hot spot, cold spot, in the room and how cold is the room the snake is getting at night?
What are you using for substrate?
How many snakes do you have per cage?
What are you feeding them?
Where did they come from?
How old are they?
What books do you have? Maybe we can tell right where to look in them to help solve your problem.
Trevor

Artemis · 10-09-04, 02:34 PM

Wow, VI, it was like a week and half ago I told you to get to a vet, I believe. Tell ya what. Instead of that, just ship your snake to me, and Ill hope he makes it here and take care of him myself aftert that. Yeesh.

VI Reptiles · 10-09-04, 03:51 PM

boid keeper :

40 gallon tank
stick on thermometor (im feeling ur gonna tell me to get a probe)
gonna get a probe
Room temp : about 90
I keep the uth on all night and thats where he mostly spends.
The snake room goes down to 80
damp newspaper as the substrate
1 snake per cage
2 adult mice
petstore
11 months +
"philippe de vosjoli's" ball python manual

Thanks boid!

mykee · 10-09-04, 04:28 PM

1..Damp newspaper is the reason your BP has an RI. Bad choice. Newspaper (DRY) repti-carpet (DRY) Aspen shavings (DRY) etc...
2. That book is terribly outdated. Time to get a book that was written in this millenium. So much has been learned since.
3. 2 adult mice = 1 small adult rat. Switch over ASAP.
4. "Snake Room" for ONE SNAKE!! You mean bedroom.
5. Warm side 90-95 all the time, cool side 75-85 all the time.
6. Probe, probe probe.
This is all BASIC husbandry that you would have learned reading any book on the husbandry of BP's. Let me know when you have snakes for sale.....

CamHanna · 10-09-04, 04:32 PM

God-damn-it Mykee, I was going to point out the substrate and feel like a big shot. Way to steal my thunder.

Good Luck VI.

mykee · 10-09-04, 05:18 PM

Sorry, you snooze, you looze. It was just such a red flag, that something had to be mentioned.

zero&stich · 10-09-04, 06:11 PM

VI,
I'm sorry that everyone jumped down your throught but I can understand from a hobbyist point of view why so many got upset with you. For exp ill-judgement on seeking vet help right away and seeming like "just out for the moolah". Perhaps it was the way you worded everythin and that may be the reason why so many got offensive. Everyone here was just giving their opinion and though some were harsh, open both ears and take all the advice in. You have to remember for many of us this hobby is a passion and when we see someone "not giving there full potencial" to the care of an animal, it's hard for most of us to grasp, like neglect.

Second, more books and education the better

. Unfortunatly some of us have been keepin herps so long that when we see a basic question as you asked about a possiable resportory infection we're quick to jump, which isn't nessessarily a good thing but way I see it, if you don't know an answer than its not a dumb question. So don't feel bad bout that or be afraid to ask questions. That's how you learn. Just expect critizism.

Reading over everything, I would have to agree with most of everyones advice, that you should have done a bit more researching.

Now to give my advice on your question, lol.
Lowering the humidity and raisin the temps so the effect your goin for is a dry environment. Try placing yourself in a posistion that if you had resportory problems and were havin trouble breething, would high humidity help you? Think outside in the summer. When it reaches say around 80% humidity it is a bit hard to breath, right? But say if you lived in Arizona, there is very little humidity and just dry heat which is more tolerable than high humidity. Does that help you out?

All in all, echoing everyone else seeking professional advice with someone who has a degree in herpotology and is well aquainted with herp is a good way to go. May I suggest compiling as much info you can find bout this problem and take notes and prosent them to a vet and go from there and narrow things down.

Sorry for the long post.
(writer, lol)
Good luck,
Jess