Not All Pits Are Bad...

[Samba]

Hey Guys, I just wanted you to read a GOOD story involving this breed. Please, if you have related GOOD stories about Pits and/or Staffies post them here so others can see this breed is not without it's usefulness. Thanks! =)

[Siretsap]

The problem with these dogs is they were used as fighting dogs. So for many generations, these dogs were bred to become meaner and meaner. The more massive and mean ones were the ones wanted to breed future generations.

So yes these dogs tend to be more agressive cause the genes are there (in certain strains).

It's hard to change history on these dogs, even if your pit isn't an agressive dog, there are strains that are. The fighting dogs was entertaining and legal in past times, now it's underground.

It's our fault these dogs have this reputation cause because of our own ego and wanting to be entertained, we trained these dogs to act like this.

[mykee]

Why keep shooting a dead horse? Hasn't this topic been posted to death?!

[hudson]

No the genes aren't there. In the days when dog fights were legal these dogs were trained and bred to be aggressive towards other dogs, not people. They were also used more than any other dog because of their intense loyalty and willingness to please. These dogs are not monsters right from the start, certain ones only become that way from peoples stupidity.

[Siretsap]

Take a dog who has the genes to dominate. For over 60 years, breed this do with the meanest together. You get a very agressive dog that is trained to be agressive by human with sticks, leather and other dogs. Yes the genes are there, they are there cause they bred the most agressive ones together for many generations.

They are not in all of them, but all the strains that were used for fighting will have a tendancy to be more agressive dogs.

Now, take that dog who tries to dominate, put a child in front of him without supervision, the dog will try to dominate the child if he is dominant, often the attacks occurs after the dog has warned by growling and showing teeth.

A good way to see if the puppy you want to buy is dominant, is by placing your hand on it's head, is he only lowers his head and doesn't try to bite it or move away, then it is submissive, if he does try to get over your hand or tries to bite it, then it will tend to be a dominant.

They do not "want" to please us, they think of us as a higher reign than they are and will obey us. That goes for all dogs.

Often we also overlook how agressive small dogs can be just cause they cannot inflict as much dammage as a bigger dog can. Take bichons for example, a lot of them are dominant by nature and because of us. The dog being so small, we walk him in our arms, we give them table food, let them sleep in our bed, get on the couch, let them eat our slippers... it's all these little things that makes the dog believe he is on top of his owner and they are prob more prowned to bite, how many of you had a little dog bite on your ankle when you went into someone's house only to see the owner laugh and pick him up in his arms??? That is the type of mistakes we all make, and these actions will lead to dominant dogs that are less hesitant to attack cause they do not see us as a higher reign.

[WRX]

The Ontario Coalition of Pit Bull Owners was on CFRB tonight.


Wew.

I'm sorry, but get rid of them. Buy an Alligator and keep it in the bathtub.

BT

[nita]

Bichons of all the little dogs are considered one of the best dogs for children. We had one and she was fantastic!! My DH wants a Pug and I would die to have a rottie!! LOL, I just need a bigger yard, more time to devote to a dog and a fence around said yard!!

[mykee]

It's unfortunate for the breed in general, but it's time they were banned outright. Sorry.

[dia]

My grandparents have a wonderful 3 year old pitbull named Bingo. <BR>
He's a guarddog, which is sadly needed in Trinidad where they live. With the rep that they have Bingo seems to scare off a lot of people - or at least intimidate them. But as mean as he'll act at a stranger through the fense he's a total suck.<BR>
My grandfather was out in the field working with Bingo to keep him company when he fell, smashed his head on something and passed out. Bingo ran back to the house barked, barked and barked until people payed him enough attention, descided to follow him about found my grandfather. It was midday out in the sun, while he might not have died if he's been left out there - it's never a good idea to be unconscience in the middle of a feild durring the heat of summer!<BR>
Bingo is a sweetie, I love that dog. So wonderfuly trained, just like all of my grandfathers dogs. They'll come to him from anywhere that they can hear him when he calls. Stay, sit, heal and what not on command without hesitation. He loves 'em and respects them. As a result they're great companions and keep him safe.

[dia]

In my opinion Pit have their place.
It's not in a city or living in a house.

As people have said they're fight dogs, or at least [for the most part] agressive creatures. While I have many relatives and family friends who keep pits they own large farms or use the dogs as guard dogs. Yes they're still pets but they have a job and were picked for that reason.

I just thought I'd throw this in along with my last post. I'm pro-pits ONLY if they are kept and raised in the right situation.
Would it be too bold to compare them to iguanas in a few sense? A lot of people get them and think they can provide for them or that they will be fine without the proper attention given. As a result you can get agressive problem animals.

[Syco]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by dia
[B]In my opinion Pit have their place.
It's not in a city or living in a house.

Why not in a house? What is the alternative? Outside in a fenced yard, chained up? I don't understand what you are saying here. Most Pits suck as guard dogs, unless you are guarding against other dogs or animals, the were bred to be dog aggressive not people aggressive.
Ours makes an excellent "watch" dog though, she stands at the front door and watches and when she starts "dancing" and wagging her tail you know someone is coming. LOL! We have had her for 5 yrs and she has never bitten anyone and yes she lives in the house (in the city) with us.
I trust her completely, I can take her food bowl from her while she is eating and get nothing more than a confused look from her. That's more than I can say for a lot of the dogs I have been around. No, she didn't come from a good breeder. She was found by the humane society, left to die. She was chain to a tree, pregnant and starving. She has a deformed back leg, malnutrition.... old break from abuse... we are not sure. If any dog had a right to be people aggressive it would be her, but she loves everyone she meets.
Call me crazy, but I want to see people with Pit breeds have these dogs living with them in their house, being properly taken care of and socialized as part of the family, not used as a guard dog and left in the cold. I would also like to see pictures of the offending dog along with these articles because I strongly suspect that quite a few of them are not Pits, they are just being labled as so.

[Matt_K]

Originally posted by Syco
I would also like to see pictures of the offending dog along with these articles because I strongly suspect that quite a few of them are not Pits, they are just being labled as so.

Exactly what I had mentioned in the other thread.. Maybe 1/3 times you actually see a pic of the dog that DID the attacking.. The other two times, it's an image of a Pit Bull with teeth showing..

[Syco]

Exactly Matt! A lot of people don't know the difference between a boxer and a pit. I had a Rottie x Springer Spaniel mix, and was out walking him and had someone ask me if he was a Pit Bull! LOL! This dog was black and rust, floppy ears and bobbed tail. He looked *nothing* like a Pit! I've been to the local pounds and humane societies countless times and seen dogs labled as Pits, I think simply because they didn't know what the hell they were. I believe they should have some sort of training on how to identify dog breeds if they are going to be in charge of lableing them. JMHO

[Samba]

Hey guys, just so you know, I wanted this to be a post about good pit stories... Not to continue the debate on whether pits are good, bad, mean, nice, ugly, yellow, purple, whatever. I just want to read and share POSITIVE stories about this and related breeds, thanks.

[jjaj02]

"It's unfortunate for the breed in general, but it's time they were banned outright. Sorry."

Mykee, expain why you think they should be banned outright.

You know it's kind of a shame that the media and the general public themselves targets large breed dogs such as rottweilers, pitbulls, german shepherds, dobermans, etc. Especially considering that a small breed dog is way more likely to bite than a large breed dog. Yes there are some large dogs that are a little more prone to bitting than others but they are not all bad. I think the only reason some large dogs have got a bad rep while the small breed dogs that bite sit on the sidelines is because WHEN a rottie or a pittie bites they do a little more damage than a toy poodle. But really how many times do small dogs bite and never make the news?????? LOTS!!! I know this because I worked in and Animal Shelter. I've been bitten 4 times and they were a result of small breed dogs. Also if there was one thing I learned working there, I learned that a scared dog is meaner than a mean dog. When you see stuff like that in the newspapers they never tell you what these kids and people were doing to the dog to get bit. 3/4 of the time it was probably the persons own fault. A kid got bit by a rottie where I live and its because he was poking the dog from over top of the fence with a stick. The dog jumped up and finally bit the kid. I would have too!!!!! A person.........or dog can only have so much patience. And I know that if I was getting poked with a stick I would fight back.