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08-18-04, 11:31 AM
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Because sand is dangerous.Thats all I have to say
Matt
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08-18-04, 11:44 AM
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Yes you have mentioned that already and you pointed out that, thats all you had to say but your still writing.......
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08-18-04, 11:48 AM
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Haha, this is funny.
Kevin: GREAT pic! Lol. Its not too common that people catch their herps drinking! Thanks for sharing!
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08-18-04, 12:27 PM
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Kevin, the reason so many people are posting is because that younger/inexperienced hunter leos may tend to take up sand with a bite of the prey
sand can cause severe impaction causing death, I had my young leo on sand and observed him actually licking up tongue-fuls of sand
his poops were obviously about 25% sand 75% food
I immediately changed him over to paper towels
I now keep all of my leos in a rack and for convenience they're on newspaper
I also used slate, which was my favorite display substrate for sure
the reason so many people post is because they hear it from someone else and feel the need to repeat it over and over again (as seen here)
as you can see, nobody bothered to gather any information about you or your setup prior to suggesting that sand it bad...for all any of us know you could be a professor or you could have taken the lizard out of your rack and put it in a display tank for photos or that you are a beginner...no one would know
but again, nice pic, and when it rains here it pours
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08-18-04, 01:37 PM
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I have never noticed my leopards licking the sand but I have a calcium dish in the cage and they enjoy it.
I don't know what I am classed as(begginer or what ever)but I have more than 5 years experience with reptiles, I have not had any babys but I do have eggs incubating.
Thanks for the comments
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08-22-04, 10:35 PM
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the old sying if not broke don't fix it nice pix only started keeping geckos and have mine on calsa sand by zoo med paul
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08-22-04, 11:23 PM
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The point is: Sand is dangerous. I know people who have had there herps on calci sand for 8 years and not had a problem that they knew about. For all you know your leo could have minor sand impaction and not be showing many signs. But wouldn't you rather be safer then sorry. Some day your herp may suffer horribly to impaction. This will mainly be all your fault! Another thing is Leopard geckos are not native to walking on sand much. They prefer gravel, and rocky areas and spend most time there. The only time they would be on sand is when they are trying to find a place to sleep if there are no other rocky hides they can find. Or it is just baking outside and they need to cool off quickly in a hide, and lastly if they are really hungry... The point is your just Stubborn It does not matter if you are a professor or some bum that didn't even do his first year of highschool. This is probably one of the most dangerous substrates for a leo that is reccomended by pet stores... And you risking it is just not a smart thing to do.
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08-24-04, 11:30 AM
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Last edited by sketchy4; 08-24-04 at 03:33 PM..
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08-24-04, 03:33 PM
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Location: Carlisle, Ohio
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Quote:
Originally posted by Kevin McRae
Hmmmm, they have been on sand for over 3 years now.....and they have never been sick or stressed, so why change the lizards cage when they are perfectly healthy?
Thats how you prouduce stress.
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youve had them for 3 years, yet you have to ask all of these questions that normally a new leo owner would ask. with three years under your belt you should know these things. that just kind of questions whether or not youve really had them that long. im not saying you havent, its just questionable.
Bottom line: sand can cause problem later in life.
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09-05-04, 07:21 AM
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Excuse me for my unknowledgeable approach to this topic as i do not keep or care for leos as of now. Wouldnt slate be hard to clean as in having to take out all the peices unless you have one big peice in there...
Sorry i know hardly anything of Leo care but i plan to read up very soon and get me a trio but is large smooth river rock a good substrate? I have seen many tanks with this and it looks natrual and probably nice for the leos to live on...
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09-05-04, 08:48 AM
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People it's his gecko and he came here to post a pic of it for us to see not for us to tare up. If you don't like what you see either post your concern once in a constructive way keeping cheap shots to yourself or don't post at all. Too many threads have been railroaded lately by people trying to tell other people how to keep their animals.
There is no further need to share any of your opinions on the dangers of sand to this person. He's heard it all already. This thread was not intended to be a leo husbandry thread so all of you that are trying to turn it into one can stop. We heard what you had to say and your comments have been noted.
Happy posting,
Trevor
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09-05-04, 08:53 AM
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Hey Trev,
It's mods like you that make this site enjoyable to be a part of. Glad to see you sticking up for the guy that just wants to share his herps with everyone.
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09-05-04, 10:29 AM
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hooter, 3 pieces of slate would be billions of times easier than cleaning 6000 river rocks!!!
you just lift them out, wipe them off and put them back in!!!
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09-06-04, 12:16 AM
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Thanks trev.....All I wanted was people too say cool tongue man......but I am not surprised as what has happened....
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