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Old 07-08-04, 06:58 PM   #16
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Lets see you girls solve this dilema! BTW: Guys like to challenge themselves and if there is two ways of doing things, the simple and hard way, men will take the hard way! LOL!

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Old 07-08-04, 07:54 PM   #17
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I am so impressed by the math knowledge here...as a former math major, I have to concur with the others that you can not have a negative value under a square root, unless we're in the world of imaginary numbers

I should have suggested that evil exists only in the domain of real numbers, hell, let's make it more simple, lets say that evil must be an integer as well
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Dilemna? I don't know about all that.

Either way, you men have always been trying to prove that we are evil. I have also heard the old one-liner that anything that bleeds for 5 days and doesnt die must be evil.

Not to be crude, but that is another argument on this subject I am not so fond of.

My thought is that if women are indeed evil, as men like to profess, then i wouldnt mess too much with them =)

Time to start prostrating while you still have time

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Old 07-09-04, 04:07 AM   #19
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Alright, let's just accept that the root of all evil can be just evil, or negative evil. Negative or not evil does not mean good.

By definition, we know the following:
1) good -> not evil
2) evil -> not good
However, implying that
3) not evil -> good
is a classical case of confusing the converse with the contrapositive. We can only safely deduce:
from 1), that not (not evil) -> not good, thus
evil -> not good, which is simply 2).
from 2), that not (not good) -> not evil, thus
good -> not evil, which is simply 1).
You can not get to 3) from either 1) or 2).
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Old 07-09-04, 04:18 AM   #20
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On another note, the square root of a number being positive OR negative is the inclusive OR.

Therefore, the square root of evil can be:
1) evil
2) negative evil
3) evil AND negative evil

We know 3) to be false, since evil and negative evil are mutually exclusive.

Therefore, the root of all evil must either be 1) XOR (exclusive OR) 2).

Since if the root of all evil is not evil, then evil does not exist. However, we know that evil does exist therefore the root of all evil can not be negative evil.
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Old 07-09-04, 06:45 AM   #21
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theres a more fundemental problem with the math here guys......

the first line says girls require time and money
therefore, the math should NOT be

girls = time MULTIPLIED by money

it should be

girls = time PLUS money

hence, time does NOT necessarily equal money and the rest is unproven!
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My head hurts

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to complicate things further, since you can define multiplication as a measure of describing things as groups of each other, we'd be saying that girls = money groups of time or, that girls = time groups of money, which makes no sense whatsoever

this thread is awesome, way out of hand
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a negative number is the mathematical opposite of its positive form. do we all agree on this little fact? therefor negative evil is not "not evil", it is "the opposite of evil". these are two very different things. and i think most people would say that the opposite of evil is good. and as for the inclusive or, we have to take this on a case by case basis, solving for each women as though she were a variable (and we all know that women can be quite variable). in doing this, the or ceases to be inclusive when as we are SOLVING and not just looking at a formula. the problem we look at has not one answer, but an answer set: {evil, good}. but latayzo is right, none of this makes sense due to the initial premise.
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due to overwhelming amounts of evidence, it is my non-expert opinion that although we can not prove it through mathematics, women remain forever known as said, evil
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Old 07-09-04, 01:08 PM   #26
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Agreed! LOL.

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Old 07-09-04, 01:25 PM   #27
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This thread is straight out of Seinfeld! I love it. It was a great read.
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Old 07-09-04, 01:30 PM   #28
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The square root sign and the square cancel each other, leaving us with evil.

THEN if money is the root of all evil, money would be either positive, or negative, NOT evil, MEANING we can either gain or loose money.


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no, you've got it backwards, a negative times a negative is a positive, whereas the square root of a negative is a multiple of i and therefor not a real number. i being the negative root of -1.
You are missing the initial statement and are working it in reverse. The statement was "root of all evil". The formula in the original post shows the exact way it should look. You would be correct if the statement was "the root of the square of 'the root of all evil' " but we aren't looking at that. We are looking precisely at the "positive of 'the root of all evil' ". Make sense?
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like i said before, prostrate before the women, oh mighty theorists!
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