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04-02-04, 04:46 PM
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Mykee... I was wondering what species you find do not need a hide? I'm not talking about species or animals that appear fine without a hide. But what species do you know of that will not hide or would not benefit from a hide?
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04-02-04, 07:33 PM
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Many of my ball pythons that I have in my underbed racks do not have a hide, and they shed, eat and drink just as well as my other adults who do have hides. I think you should re-read my post again, I didn't say they wouldn't benefit from a hide, I said that a hide is not a "must".
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04-02-04, 07:44 PM
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Re: not using tape.
How do you secure the temperature probe to the bottom of the container?
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04-02-04, 07:51 PM
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Everything on this list, including this one, are just opinions. There aren't many "facts" when it comes to reptile care. Many different approaches have worked for people in the past. Keep an open mind and never be afraid to learn, and change your beleifs.
I see Jeff mentioned the Monitors. I had not realized it was "proven" either - but I won't get nit picky this time. Actually, I thought the whole lizard / uv thing was under a lot of debate, not just for nocturnal lizards.
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04-02-04, 08:38 PM
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Not all posters on internet forums are experts. Don't believe everything you read.
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04-02-04, 09:16 PM
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Not to many lizards benefit at all from pet-store UV sources. Unless of course you have it 3 inches from the lizard.... Supplementation and a varied diet... thats what ya need
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04-02-04, 11:33 PM
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the one that gets me, is reptiles are NOT camels. They DO need water to survive.
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04-02-04, 11:53 PM
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Mykee... Your snakes may do fine with no hide. But from the sound of your post you seem to agree that they would benfit from one? So then why do some of your snakes not have one?
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04-03-04, 12:57 AM
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- The "expert" at the pet store is WRONG 95% of the time
- The way animals are kept in pet stores is almost always the WRONG way
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Originally posted by Ontario_herper
I was wondering what species you find do not need a hide? I'm not talking about species or animals that appear fine without a hide. But what species do you know of that will not hide or would not benefit from a hide?
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Ok, it was addressed to Mykee, but I can answer this one as well. True most snakes don't *need* a hide, and will do fine without them, many will still use one if given. Personally, most of my snakes don't get added hides because they do just fine hiding under substrate (be it Carefresh, newspaper, or whatnot) if they want to. I have a fwe snakes that do not make use of hides at all when they have been offered. My female Jamaican Boa sits in her perches day and night, only coming down when there is a rat on the ground, male on the other hand would rather hide than climb. My old ETB never used hides. He had an access hole under his water dish. Found him there once and scared me...lol Either way though, hides are definitely not a must in most cases for any species, as they can obviously thrive without them, but this is not to say they don't have their place either.
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04-03-04, 12:59 AM
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good idea Trevor!
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04-03-04, 01:10 AM
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Don't buy a reptile on impulse.
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Lol! I'm more of a 'see a picture of something, research it, and then buy it when i'm not expecting to'.
Like, at a reptile show. I research a lot of animals and don't plan on getting any of them, but oops, just got another one. I think many of us are guilty of this one.
And a must-know for all newbies....
DO NOT thaw out frozen rodents in a microwave... It's not pretty.
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04-03-04, 10:41 AM
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Not sure what number we're at but it should have been in the top ten anyway.
Burms, Retics, Rocks do not make a good first snake. They some of the largest sankes on the planet and will need very large enclosures that will cost very large amounts of money to build. The will also need a ton of food including pigs some day.
So please don't get one with the intention of selling it for twice what you paid for it when it gets too big.
Trevor
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04-03-04, 10:58 AM
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Ha Ha , does anyone on here feed pigs?? Even too the largest of there pythons?? Just wondering, I mean I’ve heard people say it before as in "they get big enough too eat pigs" but normally from people who are against keeping these large animals and misleading others (no accusation intended at all too you Trevor) just wondering if anybody does it. Biggest I’ve ever seen used were large rabbits. I agree with the rest of the post they are some of the largest (actually I believe they hold the records?) and are definitely not for beginners, but Pigs I believe is a bit of over kill used for scare tactics most of the time. If I’m wrong please correct me.
Also as for the best first herp I would have too say Balls are the best (snake wise), much less flighty then any corns I’ve seen, Leo’s are nice as well, but require more cleaning, and crickets, but defiantly one of the top beginner herps as well.
Devon
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04-03-04, 11:06 AM
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This is a great idea and I think it should be kept up top of the forums ,another I think would be good is if you have a question and can not find the answer anywhere in the search please dont be afraid to ask .You cant get an answer if you dont ask and most people here will give you there opinion on your subject as people do things different ,and will try and help when they can
Just my two cents.
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04-03-04, 12:22 PM
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Have you ever disected a pig in high school? Not much smaller then a full grown dwarf rabbit. People should be discourage from buying these animal.
I said Corns are the best first herp, so by default that would mean they are also the best first snake.
What makes a ball better then a corn? Hey I think I feel a new thread coming on.
Cheers,
Trevor
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