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02-04-04, 11:13 PM
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Its kinda funny to see how this thread has transformed itself from, "no need for a hook unless you bath in gerbil fur" to "its a good idea to use a hook". Well all I got is my two hands right now and a little buddy comin to my doorstep tommorow so my hands will have to do. :grab:
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02-04-04, 11:20 PM
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Super Genius
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Location: Southwestern Ontario
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Hooks aren't necessary, nor are they mandatory, it's all about personal preference.
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02-05-04, 04:14 PM
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they are kinda mandatory if you have a 5ft snake lunging at you! lol. But I really do highly doubt that you will need one for your bp.
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02-05-04, 09:30 PM
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Super Genius
Join Date: Nov-2002
Location: Southwestern Ontario
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Sapphire, how is a hook going to stop a lunging snake?
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02-05-04, 09:33 PM
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Yeah I didn't quite get that myself.
I use the hook to pick the snakes up initially, then I will hold them with my hands. I just find this makes things easier and cuts down on them jerking away and what not. It has tons of uses and I'd say I use mine half a dozen times a week and I don't even have a ton of snakes.
Marisa
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02-06-04, 02:48 AM
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Location: BC
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Sapphire, how is a hook going to stop a lunging snake?
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It won't. But like most humans, my arms are not as long as a snake hook/stick, and they are no-where near as long as a snake hook/stick PLUS my arm, so it would stand to reason that it makes 99% of strikes out of range. At least in my experience, with my snakes.
Plus if you are good, you can hold the snake's bottom half with one hand, and have the hooked oriented around the snake's neck region, pointing away from you, eliminating the possibility of it even striking towards you.
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02-06-04, 06:49 AM
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ya, thats what I meant. If you have a 5ft snake lunging at you (as in you know it's an agressive/nippy snake) then having a snake hook might put you out of reach. I was only saying that snake hooks are kinda mandatory when handling nippy large(er) snakes. Unless you like getting tagged that is.
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02-06-04, 08:26 AM
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02-06-04, 05:14 PM
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I would think a hook would be fine but not gloves.
Instinctively I would think snakes would feel more intimidated being picked up by a hand with a glove. Its more comforting for them to use your bare hand. It shows the snake you are confident that it won't bite you. It builds trust between you and the snake.
If you fear it it creates distrust.
Paul
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02-06-04, 07:50 PM
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Join Date: Feb-2003
Location: Moncton, New Brunswick
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There realy no trust to establish.
Just do what needs to be done and get out of the cage.
Wether it be a ball python or a Corn Snake.
I may have mised it but no one said anything about having a hook for the inevitable time that comes around when the animal is in shed and the cage needs cleaning.
All snakes are diffrent and react diffrently to physical contack of any kind a hook is a in-animate object they will bite it one time or another but after that they realise here is no harm to be done.
I realy like the fact that ppl her are recomanding a hook to a rather new Hobbiest, it show that you are a experianced herper and know that with any snake anything can happen and it is alwase best to be prepared. I have seen some nasty Captive bread Ball Pythons in my day's so it is better to ready for the worst and get the best the not be ready at all and get biten...LOL
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02-08-04, 02:37 AM
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Join Date: Feb-2004
Location: B.C., Canada
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I never use hooks...I like my snakes to know it's me initially touching them...not something foreign. The only time I ever was bitten was when I put my hand back into it's enclosure, my hand still smelling of mouse. Note: if you have to move something out of the way when feeding...make sure to wash your hands before putting it back.
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02-09-04, 12:29 PM
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Super Genius
Join Date: Nov-2002
Location: Southwestern Ontario
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Good advice.
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02-09-04, 01:49 PM
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"me initially touching them...not something foreign"
You ARE something foriegn. LOL. But I agree with both sides. I OFTEN use a hook and wouldn't be without one, but at the same time I also pick my balls up bare handed no problem.
Marisa
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02-09-04, 02:46 PM
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Join Date: Jul-2002
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I have 6 hooks, two large 3 medium and one small. I use them all the time for neonates and one psycho Rosy Boa. I never take out a baby snake with out a hook whether it be a corn or a ball. I peronally think it helps reduce stress by using a hook to take out a neonate.
Cheers,
Trevor
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