I musta screwed up - Page 2

Invictus · 01-22-04, 03:23 PM

Cardboard = bad. Mold grows on that in a day without a problem.

There is absolutely no such thing as an enclosure that is too big. There is only such thing as a hide box that is too big. When a BP is safe and secure in a hidebox, it is completely and totally oblivious to anything outside of its hide. But, when night falls and it wants to cruise around in the dark, that's when too SMALL becomes an issue. You're doing just fine, beaglegod.

tHeGiNo · 01-22-04, 03:40 PM

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I use toilet rolls and paper towel rolls cut in half lengthwise for my baby corns. They are convenient & cheap hides, small enough so that the snake feels secure, and easily discarded and replaced by new ones if they get wet. However I don't have any cardboard for my BP.

But ball pythons are not corn snakes, and have different needs. Beagle I agree that cardboard may not be the most suitable material for your hides! Also, how big is the ball python you plan on getting? If he is just a baby I would suggest trimming the height of the hide a little bit.

beaglegod · 01-22-04, 04:02 PM

Ok the cardboard idea has been scrapped. I guess since Ive never owned a snake I dont yet have a good understanding of what size hide I need for a certain size animal.

Maybe you guys/gals can help me with this, I do have 2 shallow tercotta/clay plant pots wich ive opened the drain holes on the drain holes are about 2-2 1/2 inches in diameter one pot is 2 3/4 inches high 6 inches in diameter. The other is 3 1/4 high 6 1/2 in diameter. What size animal would enjoy these sizes?

tHeGiNo · 01-22-04, 04:23 PM

No problem man! This whole thing is a gigantic learning experience. The important thing is that your making your mistakes before getting the animal, which is important! Also, the size of the hide is species dependant. You see, ball pythons really benefit from feeling the roof of their hides on their backs. That is why it is suggested to use hides which are small (relatively) in height.

beaglegod · 01-22-04, 05:03 PM

thanks for the input tHeGINO. I could still use help on my question about the clay flowerpots I spoke of before this will give me a good idea on the proper size hides for different size BP,s.

tHeGiNo · 01-22-04, 06:55 PM

Really, any other snake that fits in the hide and doesn't have any other special needs. What other kinds of snakes are you interested in?

Basically, to deem a hide appropriate for a ball python, you will want him to fit in snugly all the way around. Specifically, you will want the top of the hide being in contact with the snakes back.

Jeff_Favelle · 01-23-04, 02:55 AM

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Specifically, you will want the top of the hide being in contact with the snakes back.

And that right there is the KEY.

sapphire_moon · 01-23-04, 07:03 AM

Mykee--- You would say that just so you wouldn't have to agree with me! j/k.........
do you really think that is an ok temps? Our heater for our room is going out and we are picking up a new one today, that should keep it about 73 in our room. We aren't "allowed" to turn the heater up past 70, and our room gets to about 65 and lower on really cold nights.

jfmoore · 01-23-04, 08:44 AM

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Originally posted by beaglegod
I could still use help on my question about the clay flowerpots I spoke of before this will give me a good idea on the proper size hides for different size BP,s.

Yo Dog -

We're talking flower pot SAUCERS here, not the pots themselves.

See below for a cheap example. Given a choice of low and snug versus high and roomy, snakes usually pick the tight quarters. These plastic saucers are inexpensive and come in sizes suitable for hatchlings up to adults. I also occasionally use long rectangular ones that stretch across the cage and are even lower than the saucers. I think they're designed to hold pots on window sills. I get these two items in the garden department at Home Depot.

-Joan

tHeGiNo · 01-23-04, 09:59 AM

Spectacular example! One question though, is there a reason you put the entry hole on top and not on the side?

beaglegod · 01-23-04, 10:01 AM

hey thanks for the pic JF, Im off to the home depot right now

Also thanks for that comment Invictus, makes me feel a whole lot better.

Aww hell , thank you everybody,very patient group here, much apreciated!

sapphire_moon · 01-23-04, 11:29 AM

Thats why ssnakess.com is the best........

jfmoore · 01-23-04, 06:26 PM

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Originally posted by tHeGiNo
...is there a reason you put the entry hole on top and not on the side?

I guess originally I thought it made it more like diving down a burrow, but who the heck knows if there’s anything to that! In practical usage, not taking a section out of the side makes it more stable and less apt to bend or crack over time, since the snakes often coil on top of them, too. On the large diameter ones, I often offset the hole on top further towards the edge, which leaves room to put the water bowl (as long as it’s a heavy one that’s not apt to be pushed off).

-Joan

marisa · 01-23-04, 06:49 PM

Yes I also use upside down saucers! They RULE! Here is a bad photo, but my example with the hole cut into the side....but now that I see the top hole in Joan's photo I think I'll try that out as well!

<img src="http://8snakes.myftp.org/marisa/Snakes/bp/eighthead3.jpg">

Marisa

Jeff_Favelle · 01-23-04, 09:14 PM

JF, that thing looks like an Angolan! Do you have a full-body pic?