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View Poll Results: What is your Favorite Milk Snake
Sinalone Milk Snake 7 7.61%
Mexican Milk Snake 6 6.52%
Pueblan Milk Snake 14 15.22%
Conants Milk Snake 0 0%
Honduran Milk Snake 33 35.87%
Nelsons Milk Snake 6 6.52%
Eastern Milk Snake 6 6.52%
Coastal Plains Milk Snake 1 1.09%
Black Milk Snake 12 13.04%
Other 7 7.61%
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Old 01-15-04, 10:46 AM   #16
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Waxing poetic on us Roy?!

That is an absolutely stunning snake - hypo with almost equal band width - very, very nice. I need one (or more!) of these!

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You caught that eh? LOL....hey it was late
Mary that snake Terry sent you is out of this world....
What exactly is it? Is it a tangerine albino or a hybino?
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Old 01-15-04, 07:03 PM   #18
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Thanks Roy - he is a gorgeous one - the narrow bands are quite dark, which I like - just wish they were broader. There is a genetic possibility that he is hybino based on the breeding pair he is from, but I believe he is just a tangerine albino (with a good chance of being het hypo). The reason I don't think he is hybino is that he has barely visible white tipping on many of his orange scales. My reasoning is that if hypo reduces black tipping, when you take the black out in the albino, hypo should reduce the white tipping and you should have a very strongly orange snake, not a pale orange. I am not sure how much black (grey) is left in the hypos, so not sure how much of a white tip would be present in a hybino, but in him it is not completely eliminated.

Still he is a nice snake - great feeder and decent temperament too. Can hardly wait til he is grown up a bit more and I have been able to get the girls I need for him,

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Its about time someone choose that lonely Coastal Plains.
I guess the Conanti just isn't popular enough yet either.
I'm looking forward to breeding the conanti out. They are a pretty calm milk snake as well as another pretty tri.

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First I dont remember a question of what milksnakes you dont like.

I have raised and breed most of the snakes listed and for color and temperment the "Mexican" which has lost faverability in recent times withe all the crosses.
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Old 01-18-04, 11:41 PM   #22
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Brian, Coastal plains milks sometimes referred to as "temporalis" are not recognized as a legitimate subspecies of triangulum by Williams.
They are intergrades between elapsoides and the nominate form triangulum triangulum(eastern milk)

Also I have never known anyone to have Conants milks.. In most cases they are probably Polyzona, Oligozona or even Hondurensis...They are all very similar and without collection data, It's quite difficult keying those out even using Williams.
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Almost half of my collection came from the USA and the conants were a great find. I'll get a few good pics of the conants and my mexicans later today. Do you have a link for the Williams enc ?

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Roy, The Conanti have alot of black tiping on both the red and white bands and the nose cap almost connects with the first black band. A normal trait for this ssp. The black tiping on mine is very evident on the red but has yet to start on the white in significant amounts but they are still young animals.
Barrons states that the white does not have black tiping.
What does the Williams say?
My conanti are a third generation originating from Roger Conants wild caught specimens in 1996.

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Lampropeltis triangulum conanti

Lampropeltis triangulum Conanti

Lampropeltis triangulum annulata
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