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Old 11-19-03, 11:22 PM   #16
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wow congrats u propably have just saved her life. as for eating Im no expert but id let it heal for a bit . watch her like a hawk.
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Old 11-20-03, 12:15 AM   #17
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I would consult a vet if you can just to make sure. As for feeding, I agree that she should rest. In the mean time, so she can still get food while she is recovering, I would make some "bug-juice" (http://www.adcham.com/html/husbandry/bug-juice.html) and give her some orally with a syringe. Good luck,
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Old 11-20-03, 12:49 AM   #18
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Hey man I am very happy for you 8). Thank god for these forums like these to keep us all informed and stuff. Also there are alot of great peps here willing to help everyone out.
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that's good news! I just now read the whole thread... sorry I wasn't here for you earlier :/

Sounds like you have a smart cham on your hands!
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Good job, thats great to hear everythings back to normal


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Old 11-23-03, 06:41 PM   #21
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Thanks alot for helping me everyone. I didn't know what to do. I was sooooooooooooooooooo worried about her. She's been eating again like crazy because I starved her for a few days. Her tongue seems to be working fine. I called our ONLY vet here that has experience with reptiles. She wanted me to bring her in to check for torn muscles in her mouth. But I thought moving her, especially since its -24 C here right now, would be stressful so SHE came to my house to see her. House call was $120 but she also took a stool sample back with her and did a complete checkup on her. She said I had a very health Chameleon and one of the tamest she's ever seen.
I take my turtles and torts to her so I trusted her to check her out. Thanks everyone. Looks like a freak accident, just my luck it happens to me with my first Chameleon. I thought I had read everything about Chameleons but I guess not.
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lol you seem so happy, im not suprised you got a pic????

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No digital camera yet. If I had one, believe me, you'd have to weeve through the pics all over the forum to find stuff.
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lol ok, you hoping to get one soon??

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Old 11-23-03, 08:25 PM   #25
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I'm working on it.
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Well I am glad everything worked out. Sounds like you really saved her though. I'd be worried that her tounge got down into her stomach acids!
I did see another chameleon that this happened to, that wasn't so lucky. Once her tounge was removed, it was all dead tissue, and she didn't pull it back into her mouth so eventually it fell off. All she had left was tissue covering the tounge bone. She had to be hand feed the rest of her life. I am gald this didn't happen in your case!
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Well I hand feed her anyway, but I'm sure she likes having her tongue. I know I do. I'm just glad she's ok. I just fed her again and she ate another 15 crix but its ok because she hasn't ate the last 3 days. She seems to be eating normal. When she extends her tongue out far though and misses she makes a little choking kind of motion, but pulls it in ok. Could her tongue just be getting tired after 10 crix? Or is this just normal? Just want to make sure .

'me looks on shoulder and gives Lucy the panther more kisses'

She loves it on my shoulder. And she likes kisses. But not as much as rubbing her chin and throat.

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Old 11-24-03, 08:42 PM   #28
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EEP! That's horrible! Great vet though... it's nice to see someone so dedicated to her profession. You are lucky you've got access to a good one.

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Could her tongue just be getting tired after 10 crix? Or is this just normal? Just want to make sure .
Possibly, the tongue is still healing from the trauma so it wouldn't surprise me. Herps do take a little longer to heal up from surgeries/infections etc than regular warm blooded animals. She also just be full! 15 crix one day, 10 the next... that's a lot of bugs for a little girl in a short amount of time.

Give her a big scratch on the chin for me! I'm happy to hear she recovering so well.

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lol, thanks Trace. She ate another 12 today. She usually stops when she's full. If she's still eating should I just let her? She won't over eat will she? She's been fattening up a bit lately which is good. She was a little slim when I got her. She was another rescue.
I'm only dusting once a week. And I give her the occasianal pinky. Just one since I got her. It was gross. Kind of messy. I don't think she'd ever had one before. But she says NO to greens. Won't touch them. Not even the hibiscus in her cage.
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At this point I would let her eat what she wants, but females can get tubby if they eat in excess. I do take in a lot of chameleon rescues myself and when they are in recovery I let them go crazy with the bugs but once they are better then the girls go on diets.

Basically it boils down to the fact that females will lay eggs whether they've been mated or not. You may have read my musings on this subject on other threads in this forum already, so I apologise if I'm repeating myself to you. Anyways, larger, heavier girls will consistently produce large clutches of eggs which, in the long run, is very unheathy for them. Large clutches just drain so much needed calcium from their bodies. Constantly producing eggs eventually shortens their lifespan too. Slimmer (but not skinny) girls will produce smaller, healthier clutches if at all. Long story short, let her eat, but watch that she doesn't gain too much weight.

Dusting once a week is fine, that's all an adult needs, particularly if you are gutloading your crickets with good, nutritious foods.

And the pinkies... did you feed it live? 'Cause that's creepy! I wouldn't overdo it with them either. Some of my guys do like them, but I maybe feed pinkies once or twice a year. They really don't need those complex proteins, but I'm also not completely convinced that they wouldn't eat them in the wild.

Cheers! Have you given her that scratch for me yet?

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