crinkly skin? - Page 2

Invictus · 09-17-03, 10:24 AM

Also, you showed pics of JCPs and a BRB... not a common boa. You showed 1 pic of a BP, and it wasn't even folded up much. And yes, I do see a skin crevasse on the BRB... so nice try, Jeff. You still don't have the ability to override science. And lights still don't dry snakes out. :P

Jeff_Favelle · 09-17-03, 11:09 AM

There's a science to snake skin folds now? Ha ha, ok then....

And Invictus, lights dry out snake cages. I already told youz why. Quit being Einstein for a second and you'll see.

BoidKeeper · 09-17-03, 11:21 AM

Jeff man he's going to put a curse on you go easy.lol Post some pics of your Hog Islands and lets see if they are rinkle free.
Cheers,
Trevor

elevation24 · 09-17-03, 11:54 AM

I have two babies (March and April) and I haven't noticed any crinkles in their skin. But I am not certain what you mean by "crinkly" unless you could post a picture. There are small folds sometimes but I didn't think that was what she meant.

I dunno. I'm not an expert and I never claimed to be.

http://www.haptesthai.com/snake/

TheRedDragon · 09-17-03, 12:58 PM

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Originally posted by BoidKeeper
Jeff man he's going to put a curse one you go easy.

*LMAO*

Well, here's the wrinkling that Invictus is talking about, you see folds where his body is curved.

lilyskip · 09-17-03, 01:02 PM

thanks for the reassurance, guys. huxley's skin looks just like the boas in RedDragon's picture, so I guess all is well? great snakes, tho, jeff...

daver676 · 09-17-03, 01:06 PM

My bp also has skin crinkles when she is curled up. And I believe my bp is about the same age as lilyskip's.

Dave

Invictus · 09-17-03, 01:15 PM

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Originally posted by Jeff_Favelle
There's a science to snake skin folds now? Ha ha, ok then....

And Invictus, lights dry out snake cages. I already told youz why. Quit being Einstein for a second and you'll see.

LOL.. the Science I was referring to was evaporation, not skin folds.

Quit being Einstein? So you want me to quit being intelligent? But then I'd be communicating at your level, Jeff! hehehehe

And you're wrong. Lights do not have the ability to dry out snake cages, and I've already proven that. You have yet to prove me wrong with anything more than bogus theories. You have no proof. I do have proof. That's what makes science what it is. PROOF. Mind you, I'm still open to any scientific proof you have to the contrary. Unless, of course, you have none... :P

TheRedDragon · 09-17-03, 01:18 PM

Boys boys boys. Shall I get the cattle prods out to cool off the testosterone flying around in here? *LOL*

BoidKeeper · 09-17-03, 03:20 PM

Invictus,

If lights are so great why aren't all the biggest breeders using them? Why do they recomend UTH? Do you use them out of preference over UTH or do you have no choice to use them because of low ambiants? I phrase the question that way because I do know some one who is forced to use them because the air temp in their home is too low to go with just UTH so they use a lamp on each end of the cage.
I also think that UTH is so populare because so many of us use racks, kinda hard to heat with lamps.
Cheers,
Trevor

Invictus · 09-17-03, 05:40 PM

You hit the nail right on the head here, Trevor:

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I also think that UTH is so populare because so many of us use racks, kinda hard to heat with lamps.

Bingo. I don't use a rack. If I did, I wouldn't use a lamp. However, I have 3 terrariums whereby a UTH simply would not cut it. And by the way, a 40 watt bulb gets these enclosures into the 80s ambiently, 90s under the bulb (heavily screened off of course). And, I know several breeders who use custom built enclosures that are heated AND humidified with, yes, LIGHT BULBS. Light bulb over water source = instant 80-100% humidity. Even around the bulb. I guarantee it.

Maybe another reason why people who have hundreds of snakes don't use lamps is because a light bulb is 40 watts - a UTH is 8-25 watts depending on size. Believe me, as I get more snakes, my heating choices may change. For some of the larger enclosures that need higher ambient, I may stick with the bulbs. We'll see.

BoidKeeper · 09-17-03, 07:07 PM

Well fine then...I know you are but what am I?

Cheers,
Trevor

Jeff_Favelle · 09-17-03, 07:49 PM

LOL!

Jeff_Favelle · 09-17-03, 08:12 PM

YES lights dry out reptile cages. I already ssplained it to you Lucy. Want me to splain it again? Ok, here goes. Keep in mind that every breeder this side of MARS agrees with this ok?

I'll nerd-it-up for you a little bit ok?

There are 3 types of heat transfer and we are talking about 2 in our little discussion. You, my friend, are advocating "radiant" heat. That is, heat transfered by objects that are NOT touching. A light bulb, in this case, heats EVERYTHING in the cage, including the ambient air. I am talking about "conductive" heat transfer. That is, heat transfered by objects that are touching. Like my heat pad. It sits under the wood, heats the wood, the snake sits on the wood and heats itself up to a desired temperature, and then moves. That's how its supposed to work. What's more effective/efficient? A wood stove to heat up a room, or a reclining chair with heat cables that you can sit in and warm up? Answer: too obvious to mention. Not what would dry out the room faster? Still obvious, but for those who don't know, I've never seen a heated chair dry out a room! RADIANT HEAT WILL DRY OUT AIR FASTER THAN CONDUCTIVE HEAT!!!! Why is that? Because radiant heat travels through the air! Conductive doesn't.

HetForHuman · 09-17-03, 08:19 PM

Well put Jeff, i do have to agree with this 100%