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08-28-03, 10:12 AM
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Join Date: Apr-2003
Location: New York
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I have a arizona mountain king, and she's the most docile snake I've ever had. She's never even gotten into a defensive posture, not even when she was a hatchling. I guess its just the luck of the draw.
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08-28-03, 11:30 AM
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Join Date: Jun-2003
Location: Calgary, AB
Age: 49
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Originally posted by MouseKilla
what exactly is a blue beauty? another king?
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Vietnamese Blue Beauty - it's an Asian ratsnake. They are usually known for their foul tempers. I was merely alluding to the point that every time I say my snakes have never bitten me, that's precisely what they do the next time I handle them. I think they are spying on me....
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08-28-03, 04:25 PM
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Join Date: Jul-2003
Location: Edmonton, Alberta, Canuckland
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Hah hah hah Invictus, you DID speak too soon, because low and behold, the Lav Cal King finally nipped ya! *LOL*
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Snakes: 2.1 Corns, 1.1 Kings, 1.0 Everglades Rat, 1.1 Spotted Pythons, 1.2 Children's Pythons, 1.2 BCIs Lizards: 0.2 Leopard Geckos, 1.3 Bibron Geckos Inverts: 2.1 Tarantulas, 0.1 Emporer Scorpion Mammals: 0.2 Kittens
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08-28-03, 05:28 PM
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Location: Calgary, AB
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Yeah... little *******.
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08-28-03, 07:09 PM
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Join Date: Jul-2002
Location: Toronto, Canada
Age: 39
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my cal king is always good, unless he is hungry or something, never been bitten by him, and he only tried once, but that was way back
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08-28-03, 09:30 PM
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Join Date: Jun-2003
Location: Oshawa
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Inv. So it's not a king but it's crazy enough to be mistaken for one? sounds like a cool snake, got pics? I think the concensus is that while not all kings are totally unmanagable they are nothing like a BP. Although I have seen 1 snappy ball but I've never even heard of another. Maybe I'll start a BP thread called "are they all chickensh*t?"
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08-31-03, 05:13 AM
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Join Date: Dec-2002
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I'm curious Mousekilla,
You initially stated you got the Eastern as a subadult, and you are feeding it pinkies. That may be your problem. Pinkies are like beer nuts to a snake. Why not try something with some meat on it. Most of my guys that are 02 stock are eating large hoppers or small adults and they can and will normally take two at a sitting. Don't underestimate their capabilities to consume large food items...just ask Invictus.. 
I am also feeding on a 5-6 day schedule instead of a 7-10 and that has definitely calmed down my adult Cal King males. They were both biters at first.
However if this doesn't work for ya, let me know and I 'll buy him off ya...I love a challenge..
Invictus: lmao..Never say never...
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09-01-03, 11:09 AM
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Location: Oshawa
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JWS, sorry, I ramble on too long in these posts and it can get confusing. I'm feeding rat pinks to my little 50/50 cal, nothing bigger will fit in his mouth so he'll eat 6-8 of them. The Eastern is now an adult and feeds on small or medium rats. Both are pigs so I feed them till they look like they can't do anything but lay straight and look like stuffed sausages.
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09-01-03, 03:06 PM
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MouseKilla,
LMAO, glad you cleared that up..
Jim
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09-06-03, 04:23 PM
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Quote:
Originally posted by MouseKilla
I'm feeding rat pinks to my little 50/50 cal, nothing bigger will fit in his mouth so he'll eat 6-8 of them. The Eastern is now an adult and feeds on small or medium rats. Both are pigs so I feed them till they look like they can't do anything but lay straight and look like stuffed sausages.
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Eep. 6-8 pinks per meal??? If it's too big to fit in the snakes mouth, do you not think its too large for the snakes system??? IMHO its not healthy to fill a snake to that capacity. In the wild they sure don't pack themself so full they can't move
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09-07-03, 09:16 PM
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Join Date: Jul-2003
Location: Edmonton, Alberta, Canuckland
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<b> Mousekilla - </b> Here's a pic of a Vietnamese Blue Beauty for you. This one is fairly alright tempermant wise. A bit jumpy still, but hasn't bitten me, has nipped Invictus though.  The other one we have is too psycho to get a decent pic of, he's already drawn blood from me and chased me around the room. *LOL*
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Snakes: 2.1 Corns, 1.1 Kings, 1.0 Everglades Rat, 1.1 Spotted Pythons, 1.2 Children's Pythons, 1.2 BCIs Lizards: 0.2 Leopard Geckos, 1.3 Bibron Geckos Inverts: 2.1 Tarantulas, 0.1 Emporer Scorpion Mammals: 0.2 Kittens
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09-08-03, 12:52 AM
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Location: Calgary, AB
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I would just like to add that I'm beginning to side with MouseKilla on this one.
I just brought home 2 milks and an Albino CalKing. The milks were ok, but the CalKing fricken flew out of the rubbermaid and bit me HARD. I bled like a god damn stuck pig. It was throbbing for about 1/2 hour afterward. I'm not talking a warning shot here... the S.O.B. BIT, and bit HARD. Oh, I hope my Lavender CalKing calms down... right now he musks a lot.
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09-08-03, 06:42 AM
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Join Date: Dec-2002
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Nice VBB Invictus, I'm looking forward to mine getting bigger. Have to take him out today and see if I can avoid getting tagged.
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09-08-03, 06:57 AM
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Join Date: Mar-2002
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I would think that if the cal king can eat 6-8 pinkies, than it can eat fuzzies....the mouths may be smaller but a snake can still take something that is as large as its widest point, or larger with ease. A move to fuzzies would not only fill the snake up easier but they are way better than pinkies when it comes to nutrition.
Some of my corns that are one month old will be moving to fuzzies very soon. Their heads are obviously not this large, but their bodies are and they will take them down no problem.
Marisa
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09-10-03, 03:08 PM
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Join Date: Jun-2003
Location: Oshawa
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Invictus,
I'm tellin ya man, something about those kings... however I must say that my one totally belligerent snake is one of the most fun for that reason. He might not be the most exotic or colourful but man he acts like a snake. The animal that gives people nightmares. I have nicknamed him "Manson" cuz he is just out to kill me. I swear if he could talk he'd be raving and jabbering like a lunatic "I'm not the killer man, I'll tell you who the goddam killer is man, America's the killer man, America killed Princess Diana, America's killin you right now and you're too stupid to see it man..." bite, snap, hiss...BTW That VBB is really cool, never seen one before, that pattern is really unusual looking
Marisa,
I might be a little over cautious with him because when I got him, as a neonate, the first time I fed him I tried giving him the smallest pink I could find because he was so small. He snapped at it instantly and began swallowing it. The problem was that it was still too big. He got it down to the front legs/ shoulder area and couldn't take any more. It was a stretch just getting the head in for him and it got to the point where he realized he couldn't get it down. He tried to spit it back out but it seemed to be stuck. I was watching all this and got worried that he would hurt himself in the struggle to dislodge it. I ended up having to pick him and the prey up and cutting the mouse's head off. He happily swallowed that and wanted more, he ended up eating pinky heads for a little while, the rest of the mice were donated to our corn snake who didn't seem to mind that they were without heads. Fuzzies aren't far off for him but I'd rather load him up with the small ones than deal with regurgitations.
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