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08-31-03, 10:38 PM
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i prefer to let all my feeders to defrost in air temps. mainly because if they are defrosted in hot water, the scent can be lost. as for re-freezing them, i look at it being a cpl of bucks lost or a few hundred in vet bills.
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paul
ps im getting a pair of gtp soon!!!! sorry couldnt hold it in anymore
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08-31-03, 10:53 PM
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I put mine in cold water for an hour, then in warm water for 10 minutes.
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08-31-03, 10:56 PM
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good point fella. some ppl put them in scolding hot water. thats just going to cook them
cheers
paul
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09-01-03, 06:56 AM
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Location: Florida U.S.A.
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I refreeze if within an hour my snake's don't want them. Any longer I'll leave it overnite then if not eaten I'll throw it out the next day. Sometimes my feeder mice just die, not wanting to waste it, I'll do a smell test. If it smells TOSS IT! Just a thought
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09-02-03, 12:58 AM
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Join Date: Jun-2002
Location: Trenton
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We thaw in a big bucket, no need for water changes.
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09-02-03, 01:56 AM
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Join Date: Sep-2003
Location: Belvidere, IL
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dont really know much about frozen food because i feed my rock python live food. I dont know if they will get bacteria but i do know that the meat gets ruined when u refreeze. My friend tryed doing that. Snakes will not usualy take refrozen food because its meat is ruined and smells diffrent. Try thoughing ane refreezing fish yee same thing to a snake.
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09-02-03, 07:53 AM
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Quote:
Originally posted by Neo
scientifically speaking.. bacteria is a single cell organism w/ a weak membrane (as compared to a cell wall). freezing bacteria will cause the cytoplasm (the inside liquid of a cell) to expand and eventually burst so the bacteria cant really do nething.. if it's.. well a pile of goo
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That pile of goo can release a horde of toxins that can sicken animals. Bacteria doesn't need to be alive to provoke a strong immune system response that can be tough to tell apart from a true food poisoning. Sometimes the reaction is actually worse to dead organisms, since the toxins have been freely released into the flesh of the feeder animal, they are more bioavailable since they don't have to wait until they are digested to start provoking a reaction.
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09-02-03, 08:04 AM
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We use our snapping turtles as trash cans for themeals the snakes refuse. And although they are not for everybody, monitors, caimens and baby gators are trash cans as well.
just an alternative for any leftovers
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09-02-03, 08:19 AM
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Join Date: Dec-2002
Location: Ottawa, Ontario
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well,
like i always say, if the food isnt good enough for me, it isnt good enough for my animals :P
Thanks,
Ben
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09-02-03, 08:21 PM
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Quote:
Originally posted by RaVeNo888o
what type of snake is that?
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This little arsehole...
<img src="http://www.ssnakess.com/photopost/data/508/22misba4-med.jpg">
<img src="http://www.ssnakess.com/photopost/data/508/22poopypantsb01-med.jpg">
...5.5', 4 year old BCC
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09-02-03, 08:42 PM
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Location: Toronto, Canada
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haha, at least its good looking
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09-02-03, 08:45 PM
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Location: Pittsburgh
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I love Mr. Poopypants.
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09-03-03, 12:48 PM
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Thanks for the kind words
For those that do not refreeze due to bacteria growth and yet thaw at room temp... I'm a little confused over this. Rodents thawing at room temp grow A LOT of bacteria. Bacteria triples every 15 minutes in thawed meats... imagine how much would grow in a jumbo rat thawed at room temp.
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09-05-03, 05:35 PM
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I thaw them on the top of my PC monitor All sizes need different times to defrost. Large rats need about 2-3 hours, while pinkie mice need half half an hour or so. I touch them every half an hour to see id they are warm enough. If their belly is warm, then they are warm enough.
~Greg~
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