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08-10-03, 03:54 PM
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Join Date: Jul-2003
Location: Seattle, WA
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I use heat tape that goes up the whole side of the rack, and heats from one end of each enclosure so each enclosure has a warm and cooler end.
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08-10-03, 05:27 PM
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Location: BC
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so if you use no light how are you sopoed to keep the tank or get the tank to 85 degrees
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I just use heat tape and a thermostat, just like every other snake breeder in the world. Lights are for diurnal lizards. Not snakes.
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08-10-03, 09:22 PM
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Join Date: Oct-2002
Location: West Palm Beach,Florida
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ok jeff that is fine thanks for the info but you do not need to make me look stupid i was only doing it with lights because every pet store i go into uses lights im not a breeder i have only had snakes for a little over a year i came to this site to make sure i give my animals the best possible enviorment and help with any questions i might have but there is no need to make me look dumb once agian i do appricate the info
jim
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08-11-03, 12:55 AM
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I didn't try to make you look dumb. I just told the facts. That's all. Sorry to talk the truth, I'll stop.
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08-11-03, 06:54 AM
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Join Date: Oct-2002
Location: West Palm Beach,Florida
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well i guess i took it the wrong way sorry
jim
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08-11-03, 08:12 PM
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No worries my man!! Cheers. Its all good.
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08-11-03, 10:38 PM
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Originally posted by ANIMAL5051
i was only doing it with lights because every pet store i go into uses lights
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I can't stress the importance of NOT following pet store examples or advice. 99% of pet stores do not know what they are doing when it comes to reptile husbandry. So many animals suffer at the hands of the retail industry because of this. Most stores are only willing to pay minimum wage or close to, hence they have young and inexperienced people.
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08-12-03, 06:27 AM
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Join Date: Oct-2002
Location: West Palm Beach,Florida
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as far as pets stores go i just moved to south florida and i went to a pet store and i got so mad at the way they had all of there reptiles set up.they where all neglected water dish to small for them and many other things. i wish i could have bought them all. LOL i think i will be posting more in here for info instead of following pet stores examples
thanks everyone
jim
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08-12-03, 05:27 PM
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Location: Calgary, AB
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Ok, so it's obvious that snakes don't NEED light bulbs, but is there really any HARM in it? I've yet to read anything about light harming a snake. Light bulbs can be a very cheap heat source. And they are CSA approved.
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08-12-03, 05:31 PM
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Join Date: Mar-2002
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Light bulbs suck because they suck the moisture out of an enclosure like you wouldn't believe.
Marisa
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08-12-03, 08:19 PM
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Ok, so it's obvious that snakes don't NEED light bulbs, but is there really any HARM in it? I've yet to read anything about light harming a snake.
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Ok man, try putting a light in a Rainbow cage and email me after about 2 weeks with your dead Rainbow.
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08-12-03, 08:54 PM
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Join Date: Nov-2002
Location: Newmarket, ON
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Well, I have a flouresent light fixture in a BRB's enclosure, I turn on when companys over and all is fine, and it looks really cool too.
Brian
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08-12-03, 10:04 PM
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Location: Seattle, WA
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I've never used a light bulb, but it seems to me that using a bulb for heating would create quite a problem keeping humidity up.
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08-13-03, 12:26 AM
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Location: Calgary, AB
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And how do you all suppose a light bulb differs from any other heat source? (And I'm looking for scientific answers here, people, not just the usual "in my experience" crap.) Technically, evaporation will occur at the same rate depending on temperature, regardless of the source of that heat. And by the way, I do know people who use light bulbs in GTP and Blood enclosures, which I have seen with my own eyes, and they don't have any problems with losing humidity. Isn't that a strange thing....
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08-13-03, 12:38 AM
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Well since you don't believe Jeff, who obviously has had large sucess breeding rainbow boas, then there is nothing anyone else can tell you to make you believe.
And "experience" may be crap to you but its the only way to see things work. Go ahead try it out with a high humidity snake in a custom or tank enclosure and see for yourself. If it works so great as you say, wow great for you. But I highly doubt this will change the opinion on lights which is shared by the majority of herpers because they have simply tried it out.
Marisa
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