absolute min. cage size for 2 beardies?? - Page 2

sapphire_moon · 08-10-03, 04:08 PM

And they feed crickets and lettuce,and sometimes carrots....

Pia · 08-10-03, 08:29 PM

That's a good start. There are many other vegetable and some fruits they can have as well. Mealworms are also a good addition to the diet. These foods should be coupled with full spectrum lighting, vitamin and calcium supplements, and proper humidity and temperature. I have the the most recent edition of The Bearded Dragon Manual, but as eyespy pointed out, there are two older editions. If they have the first one, the info will be different. Do what you can for the beardies and keep working on your parents, hopefully they will come around and things will work out. Keep us posted. :-)

eyespy · 08-10-03, 08:32 PM

I wouldn't give mealies to the guy with the hind leg problem. They have about 9 times as much phosphorus as they do calcium and can make muscle, bone or joint problems worse. They are also fairly hard to digest and would further dehydrate these poor little ones.

sapphire_moon · 08-10-03, 09:45 PM

I'm trying.......I think I have them looking for another cage to seperate them. But I'm not sure.......

People never listen to me? Believe me, before I got with my partner and was taught by her, I had absolutely no idea how to properly take care of a dog, much less something more temp/humid specific than a snake!!

sapphire_moon · 08-11-03, 07:29 PM

Well bad news........

They don't plan on ever seperating them........

Should I hit them over the head with a baseball bat? They refuse to listen to me at all...I can't even call the humane society(or aspca or someone like them) because (off topic) I had to leave my dog here when I left before. I came back and her belly was hitting the ground!

it's not now......but she is still pretty overweight because no one will listen to me or my partner about not feeding them scraps (people food) And I'm afraid they will fine me or take away my dogs!

Pia · 08-11-03, 08:20 PM

Sorry to hear that saphire moon. I'm fresh out of ideas :-( You tried and like I said, do what you can for them when you are there. Take care.

sapphire_moon · 08-11-03, 08:54 PM

Ya, which isn't much. They have their room locked. So I can only sneak in there every so often........

Poor things........They can't even take care of their outside dog, much less something that has more specific set of requirements to it!!!!!!!!

J-Man · 08-11-03, 09:59 PM

That's horrible. Especially the fact that they keep the door locked... almost like they don't want them the be happy. I've seen this in a lot of parents, something as joyful as a pet (or 2) can turn into a means of power.

Well if I were you I would definitely have the beardies taken away. But that's only because I'm hard as a rock when it comes to issues starting "rifts" in the family... that's what having a mom who acts like you don't exist will do to you. I'd say screw it, if they're going to be unreasonable, irresponsible, bad role models and CRIMINALS than I would NOT feel awkward or uncomfortable in the slightest bit.

sapphire_moon · 08-12-03, 03:11 PM

I wouldn't feel bad in getting them taken away either. Except for the fact that when I was gone they WAY OVER FEED my dog, and made her extremly obese..

and I would get my dog taken away as well. And believe me, if I had the money to get out of here..........I would. Thats why me and my partner are saving to move........out of state! And believe me, my mother is just like that to.......... And my grandmother likes to try and buy me off.......

Rich · 08-12-03, 03:44 PM

Hello,
Just wanted to clarify something that Pia had written. When using the term "full spectrum" lighting, there should be some clarification. "Full spectrum" does not mean that the light necessarily emitts uva and uvb rays. These are the rays most important to the bearded dragon. It can also mean,and often does, that the bulb emits a "full spectrum" of light. This would be in regards to the spectrum of color that light produces and has no reference to uv rays.
Flourescent tubes and merc. bulbs emit uv rays in the highest amounts. Normal "full spectrum" bulbs do not deliver enough uv output,if any!

Pia · 08-12-03, 08:40 PM

Good point Rich. Perhaps specialty flourescent reptile light would have been a better way to put it. Use one from a pet store such as Zoo Med Repti sun or Reptiglo 8.0 from Hagen, not the ones from hardware stores that say they are for reptile use They don't have the proper percentage of uva/uvb rays.