tap water? - Page 2

MartinW · 08-03-03, 08:43 AM

Is there anything wrong with using a dechlorinator used for fish?

Martin

eyespy · 08-03-03, 09:31 AM

I've never actually encountered a case of a reptile with crypto that got it from tap water so I think the risk tends to be somewhat overstated. There are only 2 strains of crypto known to affect herps, C. serpentis and C. baileyii. These strains are specific to reptiles and ratittes such as turkeys and are not commonly found in public water supplies.

The form of crypto that's usually found in public water is C. parvum which can only survive in warm-blooded animals' systems and is most common to cattle, dogs, and humans.

Most crypto cases that have been tracked to the source are found to originate in animals shipped from overseas, particularly Central America and Indonesia. Most of the US and Canada doesn't have a large enough wild herp population to see the water table contaminated with enough fecal matter to cause an infestation of the reptile-affecting subspecies of crypto. We people are at a much greater risk because of agricultural runoff than our herps will ever be.

Tim and Julie B · 08-03-03, 08:27 PM

Okay, so the computer was down for two days and I'm having ssnakess withdrawls, but I haven't read everyones responses to this thread. So, if I repeat what has been siad, sorry in advance.

My take on this is why not use bottled water? It's inexpensive and readily available, so why not? I prefer not taking any chances! Boiling may be okay, but Tim got crypto from boiled water, so I don't trust that 100%!!!! I have definately noticed a huge improvement in the health of my leos and pictus. That's just my 2 cents

eyespy · 08-04-03, 09:37 AM

Bottled water is not required to be filtered or otherwise treated and there have been plenty of studies which found crypto, coliform bacteria, agricultural chemicals, petroleum products like motor oil, and all sorts of other "non-goodies" in bottled water. Tap water in municipalities in the US and Canada have much stricter controls and testing than bottled water does.

Jeff_Favelle · 08-04-03, 02:40 PM

Bottled water? Did you not SEE the show they just had on TV about it? They tested like 12 different brands of bottled water and only 1 brand (Ozarka) was found to have LESS conataminants than the city's water (New York, I think).

Give me tap water any day.

Tim and Julie B · 08-04-03, 02:50 PM

If you buy water purified by reverse osmosis you are getting pure, safe water. I keep forgetting just how specific I need be so that people don't misunderstand what I'm saying. Living in the Okanagan I often forget that my need for good water is higher than most others. Just try to drink the tap water here. Believe me, it's disgusting! Especially with all the fires around here, pollutants are very high in our city water supplies. I will never use anything but water purified by reverse osmosis!

Julie B....

Jeff_Favelle · 08-04-03, 03:06 PM

You're crazy. I would NEVER drink purified water. It will suck the life right out of you. Buh-bye salts, electroytes, beneficial trace elements, iron in your blood, etc etc etc....

Purified water is for chemists, and that's it!

http://watershed.net/purified.htm

Tim and Julie B · 08-04-03, 05:24 PM

Reverse osmosis produces 100% pure water. Nothing more, nothing less. Go ahead and drink Okanagan water. I'll send you some if you want!!!!!!!! And as for that article, if your geckos are drinking so much water that they would be harmed by water purified by reverse osmosis then they are probably sick in the first place! Leos should only drink after eating or a few times per week. They require little water if their food items are clean, healthy and properly gut loaded.

Jeff_Favelle · 08-04-03, 05:30 PM

Did you NOT read he article? People/animals were not meant to drink PURE water (2 parts hydrogen, 1 part oxygen). Please read it before you comment. Pure water has a greater osmotic potential than many of our cells, organs, cytosols, etc etc etc. Therefore, it LEACHES necessary and VITAL trace elements from our body (ie. Ca, K, Na, Mg, Fe, bla bla bla....). Why is that hard to understand? Or are you choosing not to for sake of arguement? Either way, drink what you want. It has no bearing on me.

Tim and Julie B · 08-04-03, 05:44 PM

Yes I DID read the article. I made that fairly clear I believe. Umm...thanks for the info

if that's what you need to hear. If you insist that it has no bearing on you then why does it bother you so much that I and my reptiles drink purified water? I'm healthy, my animals are all healthy so.........what's the deal? I think that time and time again we've all made it pretty clear that we cannot agree all of the time on these threads, so why get so bent out of shape over it? No point in singling out someone just because they don't agree with you. And again, liek the article said, it's safe if you drink it in short periods. And as I stated above if your leos are consuming so much of it that it would be hazardous to their health then they are most likely sick in the first place.

Siretsap · 08-04-03, 05:45 PM

Right there with you Jeff. I think we learn that when we are in high school no?
And latley with the program on bottled water, I am sticking with my tap water.
My neighbor gives purified water to his cat that is 14 or 15 years old cause the vet prescribed it to the cat (he can't absord the proteins and fibers through his body because of malfunctioning organs). So to show you that purified water will absorb everything you need.

Jeff_Favelle · 08-04-03, 07:55 PM

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Right there with you Jeff. I think we learn that when we are in high school no?
And latley with the program on bottled water, I am sticking with my tap water.
My neighbor gives purified water to his cat that is 14 or 15 years old cause the vet prescribed it to the cat (he can't absord the proteins and fibers through his body because of malfunctioning organs). So to show you that purified water will absorb everything you need.

I hear ya sirestap. Its a great de-toxifier, for sure. But after that, it just becomes toxic itself. I'm sure it accelerates osteoporosis, anemia, and other baddies. But its nothing new. I learned about in Grade 10 when we were learning about osmotic potential.

Know what else gets rid of toxins though? Activated carbon/charcoal! People burn wood, eat the ashes (sort of) and it takes free radicals and other nasties right out of your body!! Crazy eh?