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Old 07-15-03, 08:57 AM   #16
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I agree with SCReptiles. Plus, I didn't think the chance of survival was that good especially if he travelled 8 hours away from where it was found. Would probably get eaten by a hawk or something. I'd rather see him get shown proper care than releasing it. Think about this: if it "escapes" he's just gonna find something else and take poor care of it.
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Old 07-15-03, 09:35 AM   #17
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Why Alice, I never expected you to condone violence. =)
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Old 07-15-03, 09:40 AM   #18
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You don't know me very well do you.
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Old 07-15-03, 09:49 AM   #19
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Ha Ha, guess not! =) Although that lizard in the pic looks like he would kick a little a$$.
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Question..
What is Shuswap BC?
Typo or what as I see it as Shu-swap, as in a show?

Anyways, releasing animals back to the wild, especially reptiles, is best left to the pros, the people that are doing specific rehab or breeding, under contract etc... One or two nasties released with the animal can have detrimental effects on many things, like Chuck stated.

As for the kid.. violence is sometimes the only thing respected and will work, but maybe not in this case.

See if he will do a trade, something he wants, like a certain comic book, toy, pack of smokes etc.. (j/k with the smokes )

I highly recommend the hard to find, but easy to care for 'Pet Rock' with its' own traveling kennel and straw nest.
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Old 07-15-03, 10:22 AM   #21
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there was a kid down the street from me who had caught two baby water turtles, one was dying and could dive, and i kept tell ing him to let them go. about two days later the sick one died, and at ten at night i snuk into his yard, stole the little guy, and released him to a great pond. i felt so good.
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Nope, the Shuswap is a massive lake there and it is a very popular summer spot. Well I did send him a care sheet telling himhe cant house it on gravel and everything and he says he payed a lot of money for the gravel and does not want to toss it out. So hes gonna see if the snake is "likes it or not" and if it doesnt he will vhange it...is the snake supposed to tell him? Well his mom is comin over today I think so I will tell her to pass my advice on.
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Old 07-15-03, 11:41 AM   #23
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JeffT, I see you live in Calgary as well. I can tell you for certain that IS illegal to keep ANY native species in Alberta. No garters, no hoggies, no black racers, none of them. Call Fish & Wildlife and report him. He'll get a nasty fine, and the snake will be released as soon as it is safe to do so.

Failing that, slap the care sheet on him.

Failing that, just slap him. Repeatedly.
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Failing that, just slap him. Repeatedly.
With the pet rock of course!
Just be careful to not injure the rock on his noggin......
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Is the law no native species to canada or just no native species to alberta, cause if the snake came from BC it may not be native to alberta. here in ontario we can keep certain garters but not others, just like we can keep western hognose but not eastern.
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Old 07-15-03, 12:47 PM   #26
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(in satanic voice) kill him, kiiiiilllllll hhhhiiiiiimmmm, and then take the snake home 4 ur-self.
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Old 07-15-03, 12:50 PM   #27
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or give him a eastern dimond back rattle snake to look after and tell the snake to (in satanic voice) kill him, kiiiiilllllll hhhhiiiiiimmmm!!!!!!!!!!!!
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About the breaking the law thing, just for example, in Ontario anyways...

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Protected: Blue Racers, Eastern Fox Snakes, Black Rat Snakes, Eastern Hognose Snakes, Eastern Milk Snakes, Lake Erie Water Snakes, Northern Water Snakes, Smooth Green Snakes, Queen Snakes, Butler’s Garter Snakes, Eastern Massasaugas.

Not protected: Northern Ring-necked Snakes, Brown Snakes, Northern Red-bellied Snakes, Northern Ribbon Snakes and Common Garter Snakes.

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or give him a eastern dimond back rattle snake to look after and tell the snake to (in satanic voice)
I can loan you mine to take to him. =)

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haha sure
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