Minimum breeding size... - Page 2

gonesnakee · 06-10-03, 02:59 AM

I held back on breeding some 2 Y.O. Corns this year because I wanted them to be "big strong girls" next year & they showed me by filling up with eggs anyway. Too bad that none of them saw sperm, DOH! I guess it was their way of telling me they were good to go this year. Oh well, next year for sure. Oh & Vanan those anery babies that you mention Henry had last year I beleive he traded for them (for BPs) in Calgary from a guy (Josh) who brought them in from the states. Unless I'm confused or mistaken that is. Could very well be, confused that is LOL Mark I.

Jeff_Favelle · 06-10-03, 03:42 AM

Recruitment rates man. That's what its all about.

Hey Mark, so the anery Hondos are in Alberta now?

Tim_Cranwill · 06-10-03, 10:44 AM

This is the kind of thread I wanted!!!

Thanks all!

Jeff, I agree, talking snakes is what it's all about around here. I just get the feeling of possibly having to defend my questions or proposals sometimes. As if I "plan" to do something just because I want to learn about it. You know what I mean?

Tim_Cranwill · 06-10-03, 10:51 AM

Here's why I asked in the 1st place....

All of these are 2002 stock females...

Hondo: 175g - not the best eater but pretty good...
Brooksi: 205g - eats like a CHAMP!!!
Cal King: 200g - slow to start but pretty good now...

All 3 are eating small adult mice now...

I had heard 200g as a guidline and figured that must be low because these girls are just under 12 months and already at 200+/-. But with 5 more months of eating ahead of them, I think they could hit the upper 200g mark this season.

Any thoughts guys?

Jeff_Favelle · 06-10-03, 07:27 PM

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I just get the feeling of possibly having to defend my questions or proposals sometimes. As if I "plan" to do something just because I want to learn about it. You know what I mean?

That sucks man, because I've read your questions (many questions I've had myself) and you shouldn't have to answer to anybody as to why you are asking them. If they don't like the question, that's their problem man.

As for weights, I've never truthfully weighed a colubrid, so I'm not familiar with standards. I know the size of an egg and I just look at the female and see if she can handle it. After a while and a few clutches, you just "know" which females to breed, and which ones to not.

And to further confuse things, 10 years ago colubrid breeding standards were measured in lengths and lengths alone. For some reason, that changed.

Vanan · 06-10-03, 09:02 PM

Guilty as charged! I've been guilty of jumping down someone's throat just cos they ask a question if that could happen or not. BUt I still get around to answering their question, rather than just slam them. Seen too many idiots around, that's why. Apologies to all I've offended.

As for the breeding szie, yea Jeff's right. After a while you just gauge the size and kinda have the feel if the female's are ready or not. Whenever in doubt if she's able to breed, best to wait another year. But like Jeff mentioned earlier, some just wanna breed already and will drop eggs no matter what.

gonesnakee · 06-11-03, 02:43 PM

Hey Jeff F, not sure where the Annie Hondos ended up. I'm pretty sure that Troy Mouck/Darwins Oasis (info@darwinsoasis.ca) has some young ones that he got from Big Dan here in Calgary though (could be the same ones if Dan got them from Henry?). You would have to confirm that with them though as I may be mistaken. Mark I.

Jeff_Favelle · 06-11-03, 09:55 PM

Coo, thanks Mark. I guess we may have to bring some up from the States then is there's that few of them floating around.