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04-10-03, 03:06 PM
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Join Date: Nov-2002
Location: maine
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yeah snakemann, you are responsible for the death of that lizard. it will die soon, and you caused it.
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04-10-03, 03:12 PM
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Join Date: Jun-2002
Location: Trenton
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Even if an animal was free I would pay out the bucks to take care of it.
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04-10-03, 03:19 PM
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Join Date: Nov-2002
Location: maine
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good point lisa
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04-10-03, 03:23 PM
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Join Date: Oct-2002
Location: Georgia (USA)
Posts: 1,888
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And so many people got reamed for challenging Snakemann when he first got here. Sometimes it aint a flame, it's observation. 
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04-10-03, 03:30 PM
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Join Date: Feb-2003
Posts: 21
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OK, my turn.......
After getting chasticed for pointing out the facts known about snakemann87, it seems now it is alright for everyone to ream him for a commonly made mistake. What is the difference here? Because I came from another site to enlighten people to his lack of knowledge and the spewing of misinformation, I am not allowed to voice my opinion on what I know to be fact. But let him screw up in front of everyone here and it is open season on him.
Well, let me say one thing............I TOLD YOU SO!
But i digress......
He has made a mistake the 1000's of people make every year. Buying an animal without knowing the exact requirements for caring for it. It is done. Now is the time to pass along the info needed for him to care for it.
I would point out, that he does not take advice! You can tell you what he should do, buti it is better jsut to link him to a care sheet to save yourself the frustration of him doing it his own way anyway.
This is just my opinion, and as such is not intended to offend anyone.
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04-10-03, 03:36 PM
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Join Date: Mar-2002
Location: Ottawa
Age: 38
Posts: 3,285
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Burm
I think most people have always agreed with you, but people can't be allowed to "flame" everyone all the time, I wouldn't take it personally. You can't really expect it to be accepted, if you come here just to tell us about why someone is bad etc.
Who knows, maybe this post will be deleted :|
Anyway, just because a thousand people buy on impulse and sell it off days later, I would think an avid member (15 posts a day, no less!) of ssnakess would know better than to do such a thing. And even if he NEEDED to do it, not to post in public that he had pretty much sentenced the poor lizard to death.
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04-10-03, 03:52 PM
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I'm gonna have to agree with Zoe here. How could someone with 970+ posts(in only 2 months time mind you) make such a newbie mistake? I mean, such an expert would not ever think of the cost of bills/feeding/housing, only the health and welfare of his herp.
Makes me wonder...
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04-10-03, 04:05 PM
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Join Date: Nov-2002
Location: Victoria
Posts: 549
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such an expert would not ever think of the cost of bills/feeding/housing, only the health and welfare of his herp.
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I would hope that you think about the cost of bills/feeding/housing as well....But before you buy it! I see what you are trying to say though.
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How could someone with 970+ posts(in only 2 months time mind you) make such a newbie mistake?
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AHAHAHA!!! how indeed.
Im guessing this is going to be a pretty active thread...
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04-10-03, 04:06 PM
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Join Date: Mar-2003
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I guess it just goes to show that number and/or frequency of posts means absolutely nothing about your amount of knowledge, just about your amount of spare time.
Anyway... most of the literature on spiny tailed iguanas states they are opportunistic feeders. Eating pretty much whatever they come across. Including their own kind. As youngsters they are primarily insectivores, and graduate up to consuming more vegetable matter as they get older, but almost everything says they'll eat pretty much whatever is readily available - which can be good or bad in captivity. I would probably stick with a typical iguanid diet, and offer insects or other stuff semi-regularily as treats. Watch the calcium amounts, and make sure lighting is good. Etc.
Ham
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04-10-03, 04:10 PM
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Originally posted by norman
I would hope that you think about the cost of bills/feeding/housing as well....But before you buy it! I see what you are trying to say though.
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Ah, everyone knew what I meant. lol 
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04-10-03, 04:49 PM
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Join Date: Sep-2002
Posts: 2,125
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Snakemann, I also live in PA and run a reptile rescue. Did you know that buying an animal that is sick and then returning it to the pet store knowing it is sick is against PA animal cruelty laws? You could be found guilty of abuse by negligence for not seeking veterinary attention for that animal and fined $1,000. If you lived closer to me I would turn you in to animal control as you display a very dangerous way of thinking in shopping for your pets.
So a $60 vet bill is nothing!
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04-10-03, 05:03 PM
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Join Date: Oct-2002
Location: Georgia (USA)
Posts: 1,888
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I hate swear, but:
DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMN!!!!!!! !!!!
I think the virtual rope has been slung over the tree limb and the knot tied! LOL
ummmm, Snakemann, I think it is time to look into Goldfish. It looks like you have pretty much alienated yourself from 2 sites that I know of. I realize that you are young and not experienced. But a few words of advice: when people give you advice, you may want to take the time to think about it.
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04-10-03, 05:06 PM
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Join Date: Mar-2003
Location: The Pacific Northwest
Age: 49
Posts: 173
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Well everyone else has their $.02 in here so I'll contribute mine as well.
In my experience, the herp is the least expensive of the entire animal owning investment.
When contemplating the purchase of a new herp, you should AUTOMATICALLY calculate vet visits. Making a purchase and then dumping it when you find out it's health isn't perfect is cruel and displays an unethical person who doesn't care for animals at all!
Follow that by an impulse purchase of a HIGH CARE REQUIREMENT animal, and we have a perfect formula for idiocy!
Snakemann, PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE ensure that the iguana you bought gets EXPENSIVE UVA AND UVB lighting; it is vital to their health. Those of us who run rescues for "throwaway" pets abhor your mentality! You can count on receiving plenty of flames from those who really care about animals and will lay down the $$$ to provide the necessary care. I am sad after reading your psots.
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04-10-03, 05:33 PM
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Originally posted by eyespy
You could be found guilty of abuse by negligence for not seeking veterinary attention for that animal and fined $1,000.
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Wow, I thought that is was just the wrong thing to do, not illegal. That's pretty crazy. I bet the next time someone wants to bring back a herp just because it's sick they will think twice! For how many states does this law apply?
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04-10-03, 06:18 PM
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Join Date: Feb-2003
Location: Moncton, New Brunswick
Age: 41
Posts: 1,279
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I would just like to add that your great and asome burm that you brag about all the time will eat 60$ worth of food every 2 weeks that is 120$ a month. I was the first to attack you and I was put down by every one after that I started defending you and now you do somthing like this. man you make me look like a idiot standing up for you that could of hurt my half decient rep and on a beter note I have put up to 200$ worth in my burm that was biten by a rat I learnd my lesson and payed formy mistake you baught a sick animal you learnd your lesson now you should have payed for your mistake and not run away from the consequences
any way I said what I needed to say
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