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Old 03-06-03, 11:43 AM   #16
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Yes hes a normal, he isn't getting much bigger in lenght but hes getting fatter:P. He is fine when i take him out, but all snakes are different. But I'm sure yours would be fine with handling. He of course moves around but not like a corn or rat snake would. He usually curls on my lap while I'm watching TV.
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Old 03-06-03, 03:37 PM   #17
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sorry guys but the aspen isn't toxic for the snakes???
isn't better to use bark or something similar??
i use bark and turf to keep the humidity about 60%...
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Old 03-06-03, 03:50 PM   #18
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no, or mine would be long gone now.
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No cedar is, aspen is great...its cheap and a large bag goes along ways!!!
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Old 03-06-03, 05:02 PM   #20
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Aspens fine...cedar and pine are toxic...well, they are to rodents, so I guess the same applies with snakes
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Old 03-08-03, 02:59 PM   #21
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to start off you would need a 10 gallon but as it gets bigger you'll need to take a 55gallon tank but anyways make sure it has alot of heat on hot side around 90-91 of the tank and it has a cool side 80-83 and well the obvious a water bowl and 2 hides(one for cool and one for hot side if you want) MIO..
well i hope i helped you at all. have fun with your new snake when and if you have it already ..


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Old 04-06-03, 01:02 AM   #22
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FOXY,

Let me start by saying you have made a good choice! My Ball was my first snake, and they are *excellent* beginner snakes. I shouldn't even say beginner; they are excellent no matter what! They are easy to care for, and have wonderful temperments. It helps that they're cute, too.

What do you need to start? Well, we have a Ball (our first snake) in a 30" L/12.5" W/13" H tank. She is 8 months old; about 26" long. I think this is a 20 gal. terrarium if you're talking gallons. It is still just fine for a Ball her size, but we will need to get something larger in less than a year.

For substrate, we use "decorative bark," small chipped bark, which is available from local hardware stores. You can also mix the substrate with some Peat (Sphagnum) moss, maybe 20% moss and 80% bark, and then spray it down every day or so to help keep the tank between 50 and 65% humidity. The moss holds moisture longer than the bark does.

For heat, we use a self-adhesive under tank heater, and also a ~50w red bulb overhead. This helps keep temps between 79 and 86 degrees F (cool and warm side).

Throw in a hide log, a water dish, and some plants...you're ready to go! Enjoy the Ball!

PS...they seem to like to climb a lot when they are young, so try to get a plant that will support his/her weight! It is hilarious to watch our Ball still try to get into her plant, because she is too heavy for the little plastic branches!
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Great choice. For a set up we're using a 50G tank with an under tank heater for heat and a florecent light on a timer for the photo period. Here's a shot of our enclosure. We're using cypress mulch for substrate and the temp is 78 on the cool end and 90 on the hot end.

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Thats right, aspen shavings are ok to use and for the snakes to eat some when feeding.

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Old 04-12-03, 06:32 AM   #25
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LOL I do not really thing the snakes should be eating the aspen
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Old 04-29-03, 03:54 AM   #26
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i agree with all of the above good luck
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