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03-26-17, 04:50 PM
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Re: Reptile basics RHP help
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Thanks for the criticism without knowing my entire point. I had asked a question about the temps of the surface without the hide, or next to it for a reason.
I didn't say remove the hides entirely at this time. I was going to suggest the same thing as you that the temps would be fine within the hide. If the snake needs to bask it'll climb onto the hide, no big deal.
I have never heard of hides causing aggression with large snakes. I've only looked at as it's a giant snake, who makes hides large enough to fit 15 feet of snake?!
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The last point is mainly what I was referring to, where you were saying larger snakes go without. Cat litter pans with a larger hole cut into it should fit a decent-sized Burm. Might not fit a 15' Burm, but a big cat litter pan might fit a 15' retic if it isn't obese (not that that's pertinent here). Larger than that, you can go with Sterilite tubs, you might have to paint it though. Plenty of options for an adult giant, if you aren't looking at reptile-specific supplies.
As far as the rest of the suggestion, I assumed OP was already removing the hide to measure temps, but if they aren't then that would definitely be a good step to take.
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03-27-17, 02:37 PM
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Re: Reptile basics RHP help
Hey GyGbeetle.. Did you get the temps dialed using the RBR heat panel?
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03-28-17, 12:33 PM
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Re: Reptile basics RHP help
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Originally Posted by sattva
Hey GyGbeetle.. Did you get the temps dialed using the RBR heat panel?
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It appears the temps and humidity are good. She spends a good amount of time on both sides of the enclosure, and she seems really content. She's at floor level, so the cats can watch her; I'm not really liking that too much. But that isn't a temp issue.
We didn't add belly heat for her; she doesn't seem to need it. Other than that, she's a fairly happy snake from all accounts.
Feeding was VERY interesting though. She was in a tank with slides on the top before. This is the traditional front opening tank. She did her best cobra impression while feeding, and ate on the floor instead of inside her enclosure. We're going to have to find a better routine for feeding that one.
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03-28-17, 12:40 PM
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Re: Reptile basics RHP help
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Originally Posted by GyGbeetle
It appears the temps and humidity are good. She spends a good amount of time on both sides of the enclosure, and she seems really content. She's at floor level, so the cats can watch her; I'm not really liking that too much. But that isn't a temp issue.
We didn't add belly heat for her; she doesn't seem to need it. Other than that, she's a fairly happy snake from all accounts.
Feeding was VERY interesting though. She was in a tank with slides on the top before. This is the traditional front opening tank. She did her best cobra impression while feeding, and ate on the floor instead of inside her enclosure. We're going to have to find a better routine for feeding that one.
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The great thing about radiant heat sources is they do provide a heat by heating up whatever is below them for than object to then radiate IR back up.
It's how nature works afterall-there are very few natural 'belly heaters' other than the ground doing exactly the same with the sun's heat.
Those that do exist tend to to be things like volcanic activity which can be somewhat overpowering for a reptile, well most any animal.
I very rarely use a uth (quarantine tubs only) - Even my C paulsoni in her tiny 1'*1' Viv only has a special nano sized ceramic heat emitted (and I've even sourced a nano uv light for her  )
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03-28-17, 12:45 PM
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Re: Reptile basics RHP help
I'm glad it's working for you; As I stated I am about ready to buy a Reptile basics RHP 160 watt for Georges cage... How far away did you have to put the probe from the panel to make it work?
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03-28-17, 01:05 PM
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Re: Reptile basics RHP help
RBI panels are crap and have very little penetration power compared to Pro Products panels, save yourself the time and effort and email Bob @
Pro Products (promist@comcast.net). He will go through the room temp, cage type, and make sure the panel is the right size for your application.
I have 20 plus panels at my house and been using them for over 12 years now, my original panel is still white as the day I bought it as well. Great product and tested for safety.
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03-28-17, 01:54 PM
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Re: Reptile basics RHP help
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RBI panels are crap and have very little penetration power compared to Pro Products panels, save yourself the time and effort and email Bob @
Pro Products (promist@comcast.net). He will go through the room temp, cage type, and make sure the panel is the right size for your application.
I have 20 plus panels at my house and been using them for over 12 years now, my original panel is still white as the day I bought it as well. Great product and tested for safety.
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Can't say much about their web site! Do they have a price list? Are these guys in Canada?
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03-28-17, 02:29 PM
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Re: Reptile basics RHP help
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Originally Posted by sattva
I'm glad it's working for you; As I stated I am about ready to buy a Reptile basics RHP 160 watt for Georges cage... How far away did you have to put the probe from the panel to make it work?
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I think reptile basics vs. pro products are a matter of preference. I know that Animal Plastics works with Reptile Basics to install the RHP into the enclosure for custom builds.
the probe currently is on the wall, about 4-5 inches from the RHP. We didn't get success having it next to the RHP, and having it on the ground was not triggering the thermostat appropriately. But we're going to get a Herpstat soon, and I think those will work much better than the turn dial one currently being used. I would not ever recommend the turn dial thermostats. They suck.
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03-28-17, 02:35 PM
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Re: Reptile basics RHP help
Ya this is the first time I have heard Reptile basics RHP referred to as crap...:
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03-28-17, 02:49 PM
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Re: Reptile basics RHP help
Just do your research and make your own assessment. I would talk to both companies with a list of questions too.
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But if anyone asks, I only have 1. The rest just showed up for the house party.
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03-28-17, 03:58 PM
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Re: Reptile basics RHP help
"pro products" Ya can't even email them through their site... It's hard for me to have confidence in a company with a site like this...
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Moe- 1.0 Jungle Carpet Python... Fred- 1.0 Taiwanese Beauty Snake...
Crystal- 0.1 Blue Eyed Leucistic Ball Python... A cross between a Mojave to Lesser...
Leon- 1.0 Lemon Ball, aka Russo Het White Diamond Ball Python... Crystal's boyfriend...
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03-28-17, 04:11 PM
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Re: Reptile basics RHP help
Some of the biggest scammers with some of the absolute worst products have had very professional looking websites. It means nothing and shouldn't be a reflection on how a business is run nor shoyld it really affect how confident you are in dealing with someone, honestly. Please don't use this as a gauge for business or you may make a bad mistake.
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03-28-17, 04:17 PM
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Re: Reptile basics RHP help
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Originally Posted by sattva
"pro products" Ya can't even email them through their site... It's hard for me to have confidence in a company with a site like this... 
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The website has email and phone number. I've communicated with Bob both ways. I bought 2 panels a few years ago. I was in need of another panel recently. When I moved houses and then moved cages around I found the hot side wasn't quite as hot as I would like. Talked to Bob and went over everything, got a bigger panel for my biggest cage and moved everything down one cage size and am very happy.
As I've mentioned before they don't list panels and prices on their site because people would order the wrong one and then be unhappy. They make a lot of different sizes of panels.
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03-28-17, 04:29 PM
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Re: Reptile basics RHP help
Well I have to say I don't see that much negatively about Reptile basics RHP and the biggest negative comment came from Bob at pro products... Can't say Bob knows how to conduct business...
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Moe- 1.0 Jungle Carpet Python... Fred- 1.0 Taiwanese Beauty Snake...
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03-28-17, 04:41 PM
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Re: Reptile basics RHP help
Saying his competitors are not safety tested may sound negative but it's a factual statement. Pro products panels are the only panels that are tested and must meet recognized safety standards. It isn't necessary down there but is up here. That doesn't change the fact that one product is UL ULC and CE listed and the other is not tested by anyone. They are made and sold and only in house testing would be done.
It's your choice what you want to use. I know a lot of members use RBI panels without issue. Personally I like when a product is independently tested to strict safety standards.
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