woma bite me...any danger? i´m kinda worried - Page 2

**Andy_G** · 08-06-16, 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by be4rdeddr4gon

You need a feeder tub.

No. You are more likely to get bit and it also stresses out the snake. Feeding tubs are pointless unless you're cohabbing.

be4rdeddr4gon · 08-07-16, 05:17 PM

dude you are just ignorant if you don't use a feeding tank when you reach in the tank the snake will think that you're hand is lunch and bite you because you're hand is a heat source and snakes like to eat hot things.

be4rdeddr4gon · 08-07-16, 05:22 PM

whatever I still use a feeder tub for my snake and he has no sign of stress

**Andy_G** · 08-07-16, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by be4rdeddr4gon

dude you are just ignorant if you don't use a feeding tank when you reach in the tank the snake will think that you're hand is lunch and bite you because you're hand is a heat source and snakes like to eat hot things.

No, that's an old misconception, sorry. Unless ALL you do when you open the cage is feed, even proposing that the snake would make that connection makes no sense. Also, it's very easy to tap train a snake to even further reduce chances of a feeding response bite. Do what you think is best, though. Some people don't want to learn. Ignorant indeed "dude".

SerpentineDream · 08-07-16, 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by dannybgoode

Feeder tubs are a terrible idea not least because of the stress it puts on the snake. All snakes should be fed in their viv. Absolutely no reason to do anything other.

This. Andy said it best, but the common belief that taking a snake out of its cage and feeding it in a tub makes it less likely to bite its handler is not true at all. Whether it displays obvious signs of distress or not, the snake is stressed because it's out of its comfortable, familiar surroundings and at least IME often won't eat. If it's going to bite you it will bite you anyway, tub or not.

If that doesn't hold water with you, Don Soderberg at South Mountain Reptiles ran an experiment some years back where he took half of his roughly 1,400 snakes out to be fed and left half in their tubs. He recorded the number of bites from each group and found no significant difference. The only real differences were in the amount of time and trouble it took to pull all the snakes out and that more from the "out" group refused food, so he stopped doing it.

Tap training, however, is something you might find helpful.

BTW, Andy and Danny are far from ignorant. Both have considerable practical experience, so you might try learning from them instead of insulting them.

RAD House · 08-07-16, 10:43 PM

I agree that feeding tubs are a thing of the past in most situations. As Andy mentioned feeder tubs are in my opinion a great tool when feeding cohabitated snakes. Most problems with aggression happen during feeding so by removing the animal during this time reduces the risk to nil. I remove the calmer of my two garters during feeding time and he doesn't seem to mind.

dave himself · 08-08-16, 02:53 AM

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Originally Posted by be4rdeddr4gon

dude you are just ignorant if you don't use a feeding tank when you reach in the tank the snake will think that you're hand is lunch and bite you because you're hand is a heat source and snakes like to eat hot things.

Not being cheeky or ignorant here mate just a question but do think it would be a good idea to remove a 16ft retic from a feeding tank/tub and put it back into its enclosure while it's still in feeding mode and likes to eats hot things

**Tsubaki** · 08-08-16, 03:45 AM

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Originally Posted by dave himself

Not being cheeky or ignorant here mate just a question but do think it would be a good idea to remove a 16ft retic from a feeding tank/tub and put it back into its enclosure while it's still in feeding mode and likes to eats hot things

I have to second that, anyone who think it's a good idea to move a retic to a feeding tank is welcome to see what happens when you open the window on feeding night.. All i can say is watch your face, and i will have you sign a waiver first.. Anyway in all seriousness, i have never used feeding tubs and never will. Hook training is the way to go, also making feeding and handling times on obviously different times of day also helps. I feed my snakes after the lights go out, handling is always during the day.. That also helps! I am not a supporter of cohabiting in any way, so i see no need in even having feeding tubs. (Not a jab at anyone who co-habs, to each their own)

be4rdeddr4gon · 08-08-16, 12:43 PM

Sorry I meant live things that send of heat waves

PatrickT · 08-11-16, 03:25 AM

Well i survived with all limbs still atached and in good health ;P