Rear Fanged Opinions

[Aaron_S]

Question, is a hognose considered venomous in the eyes of a by-law that simply says "No venomous snakes". It doesn't discern potency of venom or how lethal. I would venture to say yes, it could cause the owner a headache of having to move the animal to somewhere else and then fight this out.

[pet_snake_78]

You can always use a pair of thick leather gloves or even a hook if you're really paranoid, but I sure hope people do not become terrified of ringneck snakes. I've handled hundreds, if not thousands. In the lower midwest, I've seen a dozen or so under a single rock. In modern society, people have become so delusional about risk it's hard to have a rational conversation about something like this, though. They do not see the risk in sitting on the couch with a 60 oz soda and tripple cheeseburger with super sized fries which they drove on thread bare tires to go pick up, but mention a garter snake could be considered "venomous" and they are terrified to come out into their lawns.

[FWK]

Originally Posted by pet_snake_78

You can always use a pair of thick leather gloves or even a hook if you're really paranoid, but I sure hope people do not become terrified of ringneck snakes. I've handled hundreds, if not thousands. In the lower midwest, I've seen a dozen or so under a single rock. In modern society, people have become so delusional about risk it's hard to have a rational conversation about something like this, though. They do not see the risk in sitting on the couch with a 60 oz soda and tripple cheeseburger with super sized fries which they drove on thread bare tires to go pick up, but mention a garter snake could be considered "venomous" and they are terrified to come out into their lawns.

This, so much this. You did forget to mention the cigarette they where dragging on all the while procuring and consuming said cheeseburger, fries and drink. A slow and miserable suicide.

[jjhill001]

Originally Posted by FWK

This, so much this. You did forget to mention the cigarette they where dragging on all the while procuring and consuming said cheeseburger, fries and drink. A slow and miserable suicide.

Don't be mad just because I can eat a cheeseburger in one bite without even taking the cigarette out of my mouth.

On a more serious note however with hognose snakes make sure to be really careful during feeding time:

hognose snake bite

[Venomhunter]

When working with a hognose, i don't use any equipment simply because of the low potency, poor delivery system and very mild disposition. However, when i work with boigas for instance i do use equipment because they can be sketchy.

[reptiledude987]

Boomslangs keep being being mentioned as rear fanged. However their fangs arent in the same location as the other species being refered to here. Boomslangs fangs are actually in a more central position on the jaw. Basically right unger their eye. So yes theyre not front fanged like elapids and viperids but theyre not really rearfanged like hoggies and vine snakes either.

[FWK]

Originally Posted by reptiledude987

Boomslangs keep being being mentioned as rear fanged. However their fangs arent in the same location as the other species being refered to here. Boomslangs fangs are actually in a more central position on the jaw. Basically right unger their eye. So yes theyre not front fanged like elapids and viperids but theyre not really rearfanged like hoggies and vine snakes either.

Boomslangs are Opisthoglyphous same as all rear-fanged colubrids. Rear-fanged is really a bit of a misnomer, as you have noted the fangs are located near the middle of the jaw. Google pictures of Hognose and Boomslangs, you will see fangs are basically in the same position in the jaw. For example, here is a Boomslang, and here is a Hognose.

[Venomhunter]

Originally Posted by FWK

Boomslangs are Opisthoglyphous same as all rear-fanged colubrids. Rear-fanged is really a bit of a misnomer, as you have noted the fangs are located near the middle of the jaw. Google pictures of Hognose and Boomslangs, you will see fangs are basically in the same position in the jaw. For example, here is a Boomslang, and here is a Hognose.

That is the most formidable shot that i've ever seen from a hognose!