Boa & Python Sizes?

[DDW]

Originally Posted by Snakey-Jay

BRB's are a good option.. My female is 7yrs old now and about 6-6.5ft.. Still easily handlable for a single person and a great species to keep. ��

Thanks. How are they for beginners? What about prices? (I'll be on a budgetXD) husbandry?

[Moreau]

Irian Jaya carpet pythons, Jungle Carpet pythons, male boa constrictors

[DDW]

Originally Posted by Moreau

Irian Jaya carpet pythons, Jungle Carpet pythons, male boa constrictors

Thankyou, I've heard a lot about the carpet pythons.

[reptiledude987]

Originally Posted by DDW

Thanks. How are they for beginners? What about prices? (I'll be on a budgetXD) husbandry?

Theyre not bad for beginners. they have a good temperment, stay a reasonable size. The biggest challenge with them is maintaining their humidity. However if youre using a pvc enclosure thats much easier than maintaining it with a screen top.

[AndrewM1217]

As some other people mentioned, spotted pythons fit your criteria. I've got one myself, although he's still a baby, they don't get more than 4ft long from what I've heard/read. He's super easy to care for and he's usually out exploring his enclosure for at least a few hours every evening. Always eager to eat as well, and very calm when handled.

[DDW]

Originally Posted by AndrewM1217

As some other people mentioned, spotted pythons fit your criteria. I've got one myself, although he's still a baby, they don't get more than 4ft long from what I've heard/read. He's super easy to care for and he's usually out exploring his enclosure for at least a few hours every evening. Always eager to eat as well, and very calm when handled.

Hmm, a good one to keep in mind but I'm also looking at the markings and morphs, I don't care for the spotted but sounds like a great personality.

[SnakeyJay]

Originally Posted by DDW

Thanks. How are they for beginners? What about prices? (I'll be on a budgetXD) husbandry?

If your half decent at maintaining temps and humidity then you'll be fine.. I personally use wooden enclosures but as long as the wood is sealed then you shouldn't get any warping. Holds temps great and offers more security.

As for temperament, the babies can be a little nippy but nothing major and soon calm down.. I find my female is fine in day time but can be a bit touchy once the sun goes down 😃 If not getting bitten is a priority, fish are a good option lol.. Sooner or later you'll get tagged...

Prices vary from breeder to breeder but you get what u pay for generally in terms of quality. As I'm from the UK, I couldn't give you an average price unless your from here 👍

[toddnbecka]

Originally Posted by DDW

Thank you, these are pretty and I didn't realize how skiny they are. Btw, I love that play set. Pvc is so easy to work with lol what kind of glue did you use to keep it together?pls, I noticed the end isn't capped, do you ever have a problem with them trying to go into it?

Even at their full adult size they won't be difficult to handle. I really like their temperament. Even though they aren't handled often or long they're quite mellow and calm for the most part.

There is actually something plugging the end of that piece, but they've never tried to go inside. They're much more interested in climbing than exploring small spaces. The pieces aren't glued anyway, so it would be simple to remove a snake that did go in if it happened. The pvc is just a support base for the wood, a couple zip ties hold it in place.

[DDW]

Originally Posted by toddnbecka

Even at their full adult size they won't be difficult to handle. I really like their temperament. Even though they aren't handled often or long they're quite mellow and calm for the most part.

There is actually something plugging the end of that piece, but they've never tried to go inside. They're much more interested in climbing than exploring small spaces. The pieces aren't glued anyway, so it would be simple to remove a snake that did go in if it happened. The pvc is just a support base for the wood, a couple zip ties hold it in place.

Lol I was talking to my mom about it (I think either I'm annoying her to the point of not sayING anything or I'm getting her to the point where she is getting a little more open. I hope it's the latter though she did say I am obsessed about it :/ ) (rough quotes)her:how would you have it out in the open on that? Me:supervise it. her: supervise how? me: like any other animal.

That is cool, I've never seen something like that for SNAKES XD

[DDW]

Originally Posted by Snakey-Jay

If your half decent at maintaining temps and humidity then you'll be fine.. I personally use wooden enclosures but as long as the wood is sealed then you shouldn't get any warping. Holds temps great and offers more security.

As for temperament, the babies can be a little nippy but nothing major and soon calm down.. I find my female is fine in day time but can be a bit touchy once the sun goes down 😃 If not getting bitten is a priority, fish are a good option lol.. Sooner or later you'll get tagged...

Prices vary from breeder to breeder but you get what u pay for generally in terms of quality. As I'm from the UK, I couldn't give you an average price unless your from here 👍

Thanks^.=.^ I don't mind getting taggedXD I think know I'm prepared for that(I've handled many skitish and rough playing kittens lol. Those hurt. And I've been "punched" by a great Dane several times in the face, the dog jumped up while playing and he tagged me in the face, nicked my glasses off. And another time scratched my arm with his dew claw. I still have THAT scar) I'm pretty sure I can handle a few nips XD

I might end up be using a modified fish tank, I've heard I could use card boar covered in foil on either side of the tank can aid in humidity and heat. Is this okay (I will have a thermostat on any heating implements I have in there and a humidity gauge)

[prairiepanda]

Originally Posted by DDW

Thanks^.=.^ I don't mind getting taggedXD I think know I'm prepared for that(I've handled many skitish and rough playing kittens lol. Those hurt. And I've been "punched" by a great Dane several times in the face, the dog jumped up while playing and he tagged me in the face, nicked my glasses off. And another time scratched my arm with his dew claw. I still have THAT scar) I'm pretty sure I can handle a few nips XD

I might end up be using a modified fish tank, I've heard I could use card boar covered in foil on either side of the tank can aid in humidity and heat. Is this okay (I will have a thermostat on any heating implements I have in there and a humidity gauge)

Getting mauled by a kitten can certainly hurt more and do more damage than a bite from most of the snakes listed here. A bite in itself usually isn't a problem for anyone, but the hard part is training yourself not to instinctively pull back when you get tagged, as that can end up harming the snake(ripping out teeth or throwing the snake across the room etc)

The foil on cardboard trick generally works well. You'll want to tape the foil on so that no moisture can get through to the cardboard as it will get moldy. Maintaining high humidity is actually pretty easy; the difficulty is in having enough ventilation to prevent mold and RIs while still retaining that humidity. Having isopods and springtails in the substrate will prevent mold growth, but you have to be careful not to let the air in the enclosure get stagnant as that will become a bad situation for RIs.

As for prices, I've seen rainbows go for anywhere from $200 to $1000 in Canada depending on the breeder and the morph. I haven't seen US prices but I would expect them to be similar to or less than Canadian prices. BRBs can be red, orange, anery, or albino. The reds and oranges are at the low end of the price range, with more vividly coloured animals costing more. The cheapest ones would be a "dull" red(dull compared to selectively bred high red ones, but still very red!)

[DDW]

Originally Posted by reptiledude987

Theyre not bad for beginners. they have a good temperment, stay a reasonable size. The biggest challenge with them is maintaining their humidity. However if youre using a pvc enclosure thats much easier than maintaining it with a screen top.

Hmm thanks^.=.^ I'm not sure what to do about a PVC enclosure. Do I make it or do I buy it? If I buy it, what's the best brand? And are they expensive to make/buy? (I'd be most likely using a modified fish tank or an Exo Terra

[DDW]

Originally Posted by prairiepanda

Getting mauled by a kitten can certainly hurt more and do more damage than a bite from most of the snakes listed here. A bite in itself usually isn't a problem for anyone, but the hard part is training yourself not to instinctively pull back when you get tagged, as that can end up harming the snake(ripping out teeth or throwing the snake across the room etc)

The foil on cardboard trick generally works well. You'll want to tape the foil on so that no moisture can get through to the cardboard as it will get moldy. Maintaining high humidity is actually pretty easy; the difficulty is in having enough ventilation to prevent mold and RIs while still retaining that humidity. Having isopods and springtails in the substrate will prevent mold growth, but you have to be careful not to let the air in the enclosure get stagnant as that will become a bad situation for RIs.

As for prices, I've seen rainbows go for anywhere from $200 to $1000 in Canada depending on the breeder and the morph. I haven't seen US prices but I would expect them to be similar to or less than Canadian prices. BRBs can be red, orange, anery, or albino. The reds and oranges are at the low end of the price range, with more vividly coloured animals costing more. The cheapest ones would be a "dull" red(dull compared to selectively bred high red ones, but still very red!)

I've learned not to pull away from the kittens because if they got their claws in yah, pulling away hurts way MORE XD I do think think it would be too hard to train myself not to react that way

Good tip I'll have to remember that hat if I do end up using a modified fish tank (plus, it goes on the inside or outside? I would think outside but I'm not sure)

Wow, I understand those prices but I'll probably save up for it a while lol ill probably stick to a MBK (or any king or milk for that case) for my first snake XD

Thanks^.=.^

[SoPhilly]

Around $150 for a "normal" BRB in the states. A Colombian Rainbow Boa is around $40-60, and stays a little smaller. They don't have that bright orange color though, so if you're not into the spotted python you might not be into them. Still have that awesome iridescence, tho. I have a colombian, and she's the best. Super chill, super holdable, super shiny. She's the snake that my autistic 7 year old can hold with no worries. (supervised!)

Good plastic cages are a couple hundred, as well. Or you can use rubbermaid tubs to keep humidity up, but then you can't see the snake as well. A converted aquarium will work, but you will have to cover a screen top almost completely, and possibly insulate the sides.

Keep in mind that most of the initial cost of the snake will be your setup, cage, heating, thermostat, temp gun, hygrometer, substrate, hides, bowl... that all adds up. After that though, cheapest pet in the world. 50 cent mouse once a week (avg), replace substrate every so often as needed.

Have you checked out Savu pythons? Also around $150, but less demanding husbandry-wise. Still might be out of your price range, but if you like the look of MBKs you may fall in love . And they stay 3-5'.

Savu Eggs! - Morelia Pythons Community

[DDW]

Originally Posted by SoPhilly

Around $150 for a "normal" BRB in the states. A Colombian Rainbow Boa is around $40-60, and stays a little smaller. They don't have that bright orange color though, so if you're not into the spotted python you might not be into them. Still have that awesome iridescence, tho. I have a colombian, and she's the best. Super chill, super holdable, super shiny. She's the snake that my autistic 7 year old can hold with no worries. (supervised!)

Good plastic cages are a couple hundred, as well. Or you can use rubbermaid tubs to keep humidity up, but then you can't see the snake as well. A converted aquarium will work, but you will have to cover a screen top almost completely, and possibly insulate the sides.

Keep in mind that most of the initial cost of the snake will be your setup, cage, heating, thermostat, temp gun, hygrometer, substrate, hides, bowl... that all adds up. After that though, cheapest pet in the world. 50 cent mouse once a week (avg), replace substrate every so often as needed.

Have you checked out Savu pythons? Also around $150, but less demanding husbandry-wise. Still might be out of your price range, but if you like the look of MBKs you may fall in love . And they stay 3-5'.

Savu Eggs! - Morelia Pythons Community

Thanks for all this info^.=.^ I love the Brazilian Rainbow boa because of the bright coloration combined with the iridescence(the spotted python is a bit dull to me. The MBK is sleek and the spotted have generally dull, light contrast colors. That is the only way I can explain it) the set up might be a bit too expensive, the needed humidity could set back being able to keep this pet a bit farther than the MBK. I can't aford to get a "high end" snake and prefer lower cost for a fort time snake(my first dog was free (Walmart parking lot) and so was my first cat(one of my sister's cats had kittens) lol dispite te iridecence, the Colombian also seem duller and significantly less attractive to me(also don't care for so much brown in a snake, brown seems like a boring color if it's the main color) Though that low price seems good for the snake but I'm still concerned with initial enclosure set up. The MBK seems to require significantly less humidity and would fair better during the drastic weather changes in my area. (Gets ip to the 90s in summer and as low as 30 in the winter both during the day maybe around the teens at night)

So although space for said snake would be do-able, the needs is something I'd be cautious to dedicate my money too if I got that snake(if I do get the snake I will take proper care of it)