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Old 04-26-15, 02:38 PM   #16
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Re: I dropped my retic and he landed pretty hard, should I be concerned

Everyone handles their snakes in a different way. I have a 7 foot boa that is docile as a kitten. I can have her draped over my shoulders all day and she will not even make an attempt to constrict because she knows I am her owner. If I respect them, they respect me. I'm not an idiot. I know snakes can't be domesticated. But that doesn't mean I won't handle them. As for the retic goes, when I got him he had a bad attitude. Constantly striking whenever I walked past his cage, but since I have been handling him he has calmed down alot. I like showing my snakes off to people. I don't hide them. My neighbor has a 12 foot anaconda and he always has it in the yard. Even with kids around. We are not afraid. We are very cautious and know the risks. I dropped my retic, it was an accident. Accidents happen. Big deal. He is doing fine. And I'll probably let him out in the yard again, but I will be more careful next time.
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Old 04-26-15, 10:34 PM   #17
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Re: I dropped my retic and he landed pretty hard, should I be concerned

You carried a python on your shoulder and dropped it on concrete. The amount of fail is breathtaking. i dont even know how one would drop a python, since they usually get a hold somehow.

Sorry but you failed in a way...i dont even know how to replicate that even if i wanted.

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For your retic, I really think you should see a vet. If you wait until bad signs appear, it could be too late. He might be perfectly fine, but if he's not he could be in danger and you might not see any changes until it becomes critical.
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Old 04-27-15, 06:30 AM   #19
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Re: I dropped my retic and he landed pretty hard, should I be concerned

Having my snake in cold weather? Do you even know what part of Indiana I live in? It sure as hell isn't Indianapolis. 80 degrees on the day I took him out. It's not like I took him out in the dead of winter.

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I told you guys to quit it.

This is why we can't have nice things.
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Old 04-27-15, 07:25 AM   #21
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Re: I dropped my retic and he landed pretty hard, should I be concerned

Alright, I've reinstated this thread and the topic is fine in of itself. I took out all the cultural discussion so if your post got deleted that's why. It simply causes too much of a stir to leave any of it.

Message me if you have an issue.

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Every party has a pooper....
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Re: I dropped my retic and he landed pretty hard, should I be concerned

I did not realize pet snakes were viewed so differently in Europe. I wonder if that has any effect on the popularity of such pets. I for one am not much for display pet, and probably would not have gotten into the hobby if I could not interact with them.
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I did not realize pet snakes were viewed so differently in Europe. I wonder if that has any effect on the popularity of such pets. I for one am not much for display pet, and probably would not have gotten into the hobby if I could not interact with them.
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The difference in American to European style reptile care is an interesting subject. I'm sure the "cultural" aspects of the discussion Aaron was talking about not wanting to see are not reptile related.

The biggest difference as far as I can tell just judging by a few books is that in Europe they design habitats for reptiles to mimic nature and offer as much space as possible. Whereas American style is in a tub with paper towel substrate two hides and a water bowl.

There is no right way, just different philosophies.

My personal opinion is to find a middle ground. If you have a crap load of reptiles it can be quite difficult to maintain say 20-25 large naturalistic vivariums. But for me if you've got one or two snakes and then set up the tanks in the living room with paper towels then you are really just creating an eye sore and missing out on one of the more fun aspects of reptile husbandry.
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Re: I dropped my retic and he landed pretty hard, should I be concerned

I have a combination of both bins and large enclosures. To be honest, once set up they take the same amount of work
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I have a combination of both bins and large enclosures. To be honest, once set up they take the same amount of work
I guess. But a naturalistic set up can be as complicated as you want it to be too which can effect cleaning times and such.
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@ metalcopper - Around 4 foot

@PatrickT - Why did I carry him on my shoulders? Because it's my pet and I try to interract with him whenever I can. I'm not going to neglect him and ignore him. Why did I take him out his enclosure? Because it was 80 degrees outside and I wanted him to get some fresh air and explore outside for a little bit. Yes, I know snakes aren't cats. But I never seen someone carry a cat on their shoulders.
I fully agree with you, Patrick. I handle my snakes constantly. They love the attention, and I wouldn't want it any other way. I coped many comments from forum members, all outraged that I take my snakes out of their enclosure and supposedly cause them stress, because they are anti-social.
I don't pretend to be able to read a snake's mind, but I know from experience that when a snake is unhappy with what I do, it will frantically try to move away from me, it will become agitated and potentially aggressive. That's not what my snakes do when I remove them from the enclosure. They seek my presence and that of my husband, they actually climb on us and wrap themselves around our necks without us doing anything. We too, take them outside, and they don't bite our ears off because of it. They are curious and inquisitive, remain calm and display all signs that they are fine with the little excursion. All I read in this forum is that we shouldn't handle our snakes, we shouldn't take them out of their controlled environment, we shouldn't do a million things, as they are, in most people's opinion, more fragile than eggs and will break if we even dare to breathe too hard around them.
Don't feel bad about your snake falling. It is unfortunate, true, but it was an accident, and I am certain that you didn't mean it to happen.
I really hope that your snake is doing well. I am yet to read to the end of this thread to see the updates, if any.
Cheers.
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Old 04-29-15, 12:41 AM   #30
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Re: I dropped my retic and he landed pretty hard, should I be concerned

I would never say a snake loves the attention. Tolerates it, perhaps. Maybe I'd go as far as saying it doesn't object to the opportunity to stretch out and get some fresh air, but that's about as far as I would push it.

That being said, I do handle my reptiles. Not frequently, but it always surprises me when people are so opposed to it. I would agree that many people overdo it, but I see no issue with responsibly handling them. It's why I keep reptiles and not fish. I enjoy interacting with them, but I don't do it nearly as often as I would with most pets (say my ferrets for example, which get hours of attention and do in fact love every minute of it). But occasionally.
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