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01-21-15, 07:12 AM
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Re: Adopted snake, need help IDing.
That's about the size a 6month to a year should have... Looking at the head and rest of body, it's clear he's underfed  Mine is just over 2 years now and as a male he's close to 9feet and way bigger in girth. Like Reptiledude987 said, he won't grow to his full potency anymore, but he still can get some length and girth if you feed him properly, meaning enough to grow but not too much he will get fat. Do you know if ti's a male or female? as for the morph, i'm not the expert, but there could be pearl in it, no?
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01-21-15, 07:17 AM
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Re: Adopted snake, need help IDing.
I'd say underfed as well, my male burm is 3,5+ feet, he's from past October.
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01-21-15, 09:53 AM
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Re: Adopted snake, need help IDing.
Someone else on here had a burm that came to them that had been stunted. 4-5 years and 6-7 feet long. It filled out and grew a little but never got long. I would feed like normal for a burm that size and see where it gets you.
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01-21-15, 09:53 AM
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Re: Adopted snake, need help IDing.
IMO that this snake is under fed but is much younger than stated. I could be wrong but I just can't see a 2 year old burm staying that size no matter how much it was held back, as I said this is just may opinion and I could well be wrong. Anyway best of luck with him and it's good to see he's now in a home where he'll be well cared for
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01-21-15, 10:16 AM
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Re: Adopted snake, need help IDing.
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IMO that this snake is under fed but is much younger than stated. I could be wrong but I just can't see a 2 year old burm staying that size no matter how much it was held back, as I said this is just may opinion and I could well be wrong. Anyway best of luck with him and it's good to see he's now in a home where he'll be well cared for 
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You would be surprised. Like I said, another member on here got a 4-5 year old burm that was pretty stunted and it just never put on the typical burm length despite his efforts. It just filled out.
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01-21-15, 12:31 PM
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Re: Adopted snake, need help IDing.
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You would be surprised. Like I said, another member on here got a 4-5 year old burm that was pretty stunted and it just never put on the typical burm length despite his efforts. It just filled out.
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As I said mate this was just my opinion
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01-21-15, 10:28 AM
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Re: Adopted snake, need help IDing.
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Hello, first things first. I have owned many ball pythons, and corn snakes in my life, and feel the time is right to make the jump I've been waiting a while for. Anyways, I recently adopted this "Burm", but they told me it was two years old, and only about 4.5 feet long. Is it possible that a Burmese python would only grow to that size in two years if it wasn't fed enough/had a large enough aquarium? Anyways, I'm including some photos and if anyone could let me know if they thinks this truly is a Burm, or a ball python, I would be very grateful.
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I'm happy you've rescued this snake. Seriously, good job.
However, I'm unsure if this is really the time to make the jump you say you were waiting for. You couldn't tell if this was a burmese python or a ball python and didn't seem to know that the "it grows to the size of it's enclosure" is a myth. I'm not trying to be an *** but that stuff is pretty basic and giants cannot be taken lightly as much as some people feel they can be.
Be sure to do a LOT more research going forward if you plan to keep it.
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01-21-15, 10:44 AM
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Re: Adopted snake, need help IDing.
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giants cannot be taken lightly as much as some people feel they can be.
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Werd. They can do some SERIOUS damage if you get lazy and make mistakes around them. I'm always on guard around them, more so than with any of my smaller snakes, even the ones with bad attitudes.
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01-21-15, 10:50 AM
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Re: Adopted snake, need help IDing.
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Werd. They can do some SERIOUS damage if you get lazy and make mistakes around them. I'm always on guard around them, more so than with any of my smaller snakes, even the ones with bad attitudes.
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For the record, I wasn't alluding to you. (I'd just say you). I meant many people who own giants. They SAY they respect the power and strength but yet never show it in their handling practices when pics are posted. Actions speak louder than words.
Sad reality.
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01-21-15, 10:55 AM
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Re: Adopted snake, need help IDing.
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For the record, I wasn't alluding to you. (I'd just say you). I meant many people who own giants. They SAY they respect the power and strength but yet never show it in their handling practices when pics are posted. Actions speak louder than words.
Sad reality.
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I know. It's a "If the shoe fits, wear it" situation. Merely backing up what you said. Some peoples' handling practices abhor me. Just a mess waiting to happen.
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01-21-15, 12:09 PM
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Re: Adopted snake, need help IDing.
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I know. It's a "If the shoe fits, wear it" situation. Merely backing up what you said. Some peoples' handling practices abhor me. Just a mess waiting to happen.
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Yes but more dogs bite than snakes so it's all okay!
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01-21-15, 12:30 PM
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Re: Adopted snake, need help IDing.
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I know. It's a "If the shoe fits, wear it" situation. Merely backing up what you said. Some peoples' handling practices abhor me. Just a mess waiting to happen.
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What would you say we're poor handling practices Kyle ?
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01-21-15, 02:02 PM
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Re: Adopted snake, need help IDing.
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I'm happy you've rescued this snake. Seriously, good job.
However, I'm unsure if this is really the time to make the jump you say you were waiting for. You couldn't tell if this was a burmese python or a ball python and didn't seem to know that the "it grows to the size of it's enclosure" is a myth. I'm not trying to be an *** but that stuff is pretty basic and giants cannot be taken lightly as much as some people feel they can be.
Be sure to do a LOT more research going forward if you plan to keep it.
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Here's the thing. The reason I am having trouble identifying if the snake was a Burm or a ball is that they look very similar. She is two years old, as the guy has pictures of her from two years ago, and she has been in the 30 gallon aquarium. I don't think it's fair of you to judge me based on a few questions I have asked, that after researching have come up with mixed answers. People like you scare away newcomers to the forum, I think you need to get off your high horse and give me a chance before you instantly accuse me of not knowing basic information. I came her for answers, not to be judged. If you asked me a question about how to fix a car, I would try to help you, not tell you you have made a mistake and should stick to riding a bike.
To answer a few of the questions, yes she is a female, and yes she is at least two years old, which is why I wasn't quite sure if a Burm would be restricted to growth based in size of aquarium and being very underfed. Now, do you still think it's possible a Burm would only be 4.5 feet after two years? I've looked up dozens of articles, and have never seen a single instance of a snakes growth being stunted that much. Maybe you think it's not the right time, but the reason I am making sure of these things is because I DO. I can assure you I do not take any snakes lightly.
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01-21-15, 02:09 PM
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Re: Adopted snake, need help IDing.
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Here's the thing. The reason I am having trouble identifying if the snake was a Burm or a ball is that they look very similar. She is two years old, as the guy has pictures of her from two years ago, and she has been in the 30 gallon aquarium. I don't think it's fair of you to judge me based on a few questions I have asked, that after researching have come up with mixed answers. People like you scare away newcomers to the forum, I think you need to get off your high horse and give me a chance before you instantly accuse me of not knowing basic information. I came her for answers, not to be judged. If you asked me a question about how to fix a car, I would try to help you, not tell you you have made a mistake and should stick to riding a bike.
To answer a few of the questions, yes she is a female, and yes she is at least two years old, which is why I wasn't quite sure if a Burm would be restricted to growth based in size of aquarium and being very underfed. Now, do you still think it's possible a Burm would only be 4.5 feet after two years? I've looked up dozens of articles, and have never seen a single instance of a snakes growth being stunted that much. Maybe you think it's not the right time, but the reason I am making sure of these things is because I DO. I can assure you I do not take any snakes lightly.
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Dude, regardless of what you think of me and my information, it needed to be said. You asked some questions and I tried to help the snake. Not give you the answers that suit your needs. The snake's needs.
Your analogy is flawed. A car isn't a living creature.
Anyway, burms and ball pythons (even albinos) do NOT look alike. Seriously. I have been around a LONG time and this is the first I've ever heard that.
Also, again you didn't know the BASIC myth that enclosure size doesn't dictate growth rates.
I made a suggestion based on the information provided. If there's more to it than that it is your fault for not divulging the information. I can only go on what's been given to me. Sorry to burst your bubble.
P.S. Newcomers flock to this site regardless of me. I have been around forever and(getting on my high horse now) I have forgotten more about snakes than you'll ever learn.
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01-21-15, 02:19 PM
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Re: Adopted snake, need help IDing.
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Dude, regardless of what you think of me and my information, it needed to be said. You asked some questions and I tried to help the snake. Not give you the answers that suit your needs. The snake's needs.
Your analogy is flawed. A car isn't a living creature.
Anyway, burms and ball pythons (even albinos) do NOT look alike. Seriously. I have been around a LONG time and this is the first I've ever heard that.
Also, again you didn't know the BASIC myth that enclosure size doesn't dictate growth rates.
I made a suggestion based on the information provided. If there's more to it than that it is your fault for not divulging the information. I can only go on what's been given to me. Sorry to burst your bubble.
P.S. Newcomers flock to this site regardless of me. I have been around forever and(getting on my high horse now) I have forgotten more about snakes than you'll ever learn.
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So since they look so different, you're saying she is a Burm without a doubt?
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