My ACE prefers cold?

[CrotalusR#1]

Originally Posted by pdomensis

Really? I haven't heard this before.

Last snake that I know of was an African rock. Killed 2 kids in there sleep.

Keepers fault.

[pdomensis]

But not a boa. Just checking. Thanks.

[CrotalusR#1]

Originally Posted by pdomensis

But not a boa. Just checking. Thanks.

This is just a 'that's what I thought' comment when in actuality
Just cas you didn't find these incidents doesn't mean they didn't happen.

This isn't that day to waste time arguing write?

Merry Christams

Regards
Nathan.

[SSSSnakes]

Originally Posted by CrotalusR#1

This is just a 'that's what I thought' comment when in actuality
Just cas you didn't find these incidents doesn't mean they didn't happen.

This isn't that day to waste time arguing write?

Merry Christams

Regards
Nathan.

You can end this disagreement Nathan, just post the links to all the boa attacks that have killed people.

[FWK]

Originally Posted by CrotalusR#1

This is just a 'that's what I thought' comment when in actuality
Just cas you didn't find these incidents doesn't mean they didn't happen.

You are becoming irritating. As they say, "put up or shut up." Provide links to the incidents you are so sure have happened but we can not find or cease and desist.

[CrotalusR#1]

I will get the name of the book that I read a couple accounts of this happening and the others can simply be found on the internet and one of those has already be talked about on this damn forum.

I will post the name of the booK when I can.
Until then there's really nothing to be said, as in arguing.


FWK, obviously you couldn't get it that in my last reply that I am done arguing on this thread. I tried ending it in a polite way, so why you feel the need to continue it on, is beyond me.

I mean it's Christmas and we are auguring about snakes and what was said, I means really dose that just not sound so stupid???

So again FWK, I am done on this thread, it is no long worth anyone's time so let's drop it.

[CrotalusR#1]

I said boa didn't I??

I just told you what the last snake I know of that did that. There are a hand full of cases of boas doing the same. Look it up, I'm not going to reasurch and post the link for people. If your interested, look it up.

[pdomensis]

Thanks. I did in fact look it up and found some instances of people getting killed from larger pythons, but not from BCs. I found one case of a 4 yr old killed by what was described as a boa, but identification was uncertain. There was also one case of a death from salmonella carried by a boa constrictor.

If you had other information I'd be interested in it, but I think claiming "plenty" of cases of boa strangulation deaths, might be a bit of a stretch, and certainly not an idea I would proliferate.

I think the OPs husbandry really needs help, but not because it's a threat to the people, but because the snake is not being well tended.

cheers.

[CrotalusR#1]

I think the OPs husbandry really needs help, but not because it's a threat to the people, but because the snake is not being well tended.

I'm not saying the boa needs a new set up just because it's a potential threat.
I'm just stating the possibilities. The fact that it could happen (very unlikely) means that it should be treated like it's a possibility know what I mean?

We could all go on and on about what this person needs to difently. I was just giving one of the reasons, that could affect us all.

[FWK]

There is so much fail in this thread I'm not sure where to start... Ace4me, please take the advice of just about everyone who has posted here and put the snake back in an appropriate enclosure with proper security (hides, cover, vision breaks etc.) and thermal gradient. Allowing the snake to free roam, I assure you, is extremely stressful for the animal and will be detrimental to its health in many ways. Not to mention the risk of injury to the animal or escape.

CrotalusR#1, please, please check your facts before you post such inflammatory nonsense. To my knowledge there has been but one incident of a Boa killing a human in the history of this county, the keeper had the animal out to show a friend and the snake somehow got wrapped around the keepers neck. Odds are the keeper put it there and the snake squeezed in an attempt to keep from falling. It was a very large Boa, the local news reported it to be around nine feet and 25 pounds, it would dwarf the snake in the OP photo. The only other Boa related fatality ever reported in the U.S. is the salmonella infection pdomensis mentioned, that story is very strange. Supposedly the victim revived a salmonella-tainted blood transfusion and died as a result of septic shock. The donor of the blood kept snakes including a Boa and the hospital claimed the salmonella came from the Boa. Figure that one out. If you have information to back up your outlandish claims I too would be very interested. There are inherent dangers to working with any animal (not just snakes) but please do not exaggerate the risks or make outrageous claims that can not be backed up with facts.

[Ace4me]

Originally Posted by FWK

There is so much fail in this thread I'm not sure where to start... Ace4me, please take the advice of just about everyone who has posted here and put the snake back in an appropriate enclosure with proper security (hides, cover, vision breaks etc.) and thermal gradient. Allowing the snake to free roam, I assure you, is extremely stressful for the animal and will be detrimental to its health in many ways. Not to mention the risk of injury to the animal or escape.

CrotalusR#1, please, please check your facts before you post such inflammatory nonsense. To my knowledge there has been but one incident of a Boa killing a human in the history of this county, the keeper had the animal out to show a friend and the snake somehow got wrapped around the keepers neck. Odds are the keeper put it there and the snake squeezed in an attempt to keep from falling. It was a very large Boa, the local news reported it to be around nine feet and 25 pounds, it would dwarf the snake in the OP photo. The only other Boa related fatality ever reported in the U.S. is the salmonella infection pdomensis mentioned, that story is very strange. Supposedly the victim revived a salmonella-tainted blood transfusion and died as a result of septic shock. The donor of the blood kept snakes including a Boa and the hospital claimed the salmonella came from the Boa. Figure that one out. If you have information to back up your outlandish claims I too would be very interested. There are inherent dangers to working with any animal (not just snakes) but please do not exaggerate the risks or make outrageous claims that can not be backed up with facts.

Thank you FWK, for somewhat getting my back I guess you would say.
When I bought Kratos, later renamed ACE, he came with a 100 or 150 gallon aquarium. But he was ALWAYS in the water. I am not saying that is wrong but it just didn't seem like a very "happy" existence for me to visit and watch him, not 24/7 no, but ALOT only to see him simply there.
True, these kinds of animals/reptiles/pets aren't meant to be or known for "happy" but I just likened it to getting a sweet kitten or puppy and then seeing it tossed outside for scratching or chained up to a pole once it's "cute" wore off. I also had to sell the aquarium because, well, just because.
Before choosing to let ACE be seemingly happy this way, I literally got on hands and knees thru the entire less than 1000 sf home much in the way someone would baby proof a home. I was able to block off/out only 3 ways he could hide and none of the 3 ways lead to outside. This place is sealed because I choose not to waste money on heating bills now that it is winter.
Since my original question (why does he literally WANT to be cold?!) hasn't technically been answered, I guess I will remove my awestruck, chewed out registration and find another way to get answered without putting myself out like this again.

[SnoopySnake]

Originally Posted by Ace4me

Thank you FWK, for somewhat getting my back I guess you would say.
When I bought Kratos, later renamed ACE, he came with a 100 or 150 gallon aquarium. But he was ALWAYS in the water. I am not saying that is wrong but it just didn't seem like a very "happy" existence for me to visit and watch him, not 24/7 no, but ALOT only to see him simply there.

Have you considered maybe he soaks like that because his humidity wasn't/isn't high enough? Boas need around 50-60% humidity and the average home doesn't have half that.

[Ace4me]

Originally Posted by SnoopySnake

Have you considered maybe he soaks like that because his humidity wasn't/isn't high enough? Boas need around 50-60% humidity and the average home doesn't have half that.

No, because quite honestly, I've never understood humidity in the first place.
I do know, however, that he is potty trained ! He will enjoy wandering all over the house for several hours and then I put him in the water all warmed up and instant poop! I then change it of course.
I guess you'll can slam my "husbandry" all you desire but at least he has a great home and is truly loved (I certainly never thought I could seriously LOVE a snake).

[shaunyboy]

Originally Posted by Ace4me

Thank you FWK, for somewhat getting my back I guess you would say.
When I bought Kratos, later renamed ACE, he came with a 100 or 150 gallon aquarium. But he was ALWAYS in the water. I am not saying that is wrong but it just didn't seem like a very "happy" existence for me to visit and watch him, not 24/7 no, but ALOT only to see him simply there.
True, these kinds of animals/reptiles/pets aren't meant to be or known for "happy" but I just likened it to getting a sweet kitten or puppy and then seeing it tossed outside for scratching or chained up to a pole once it's "cute" wore off. I also had to sell the aquarium because, well, just because.
Before choosing to let ACE be seemingly happy this way, I literally got on hands and knees thru the entire less than 1000 sf home much in the way someone would baby proof a home. I was able to block off/out only 3 ways he could hide and none of the 3 ways lead to outside. This place is sealed because I choose not to waste money on heating bills now that it is winter.
Since my original question (why does he literally WANT to be cold?!) hasn't technically been answered, I guess I will remove my awestruck, chewed out registration and find another way to get answered without putting myself out like this again.

no matter how many decent keepers you ask.....


they will all tell you the same...

BUY A PROPER ENCLOSURE AND EQUIPMENT FOR YOUR BOA


cheers shaun

[shaunyboy]

Originally Posted by FWK

There is so much fail in this thread I'm not sure where to start... Ace4me, please take the advice of just about everyone who has posted here and put the snake back in an appropriate enclosure with proper security (hides, cover, vision breaks etc.) and thermal gradient. Allowing the snake to free roam, I assure you, is extremely stressful for the animal and will be detrimental to its health in many ways. Not to mention the risk of injury to the animal or escape.

CrotalusR#1, please, please check your facts before you post such inflammatory nonsense. To my knowledge there has been but one incident of a Boa killing a human in the history of this county, the keeper had the animal out to show a friend and the snake somehow got wrapped around the keepers neck. Odds are the keeper put it there and the snake squeezed in an attempt to keep from falling. It was a very large Boa, the local news reported it to be around nine feet and 25 pounds, it would dwarf the snake in the OP photo. The only other Boa related fatality ever reported in the U.S. is the salmonella infection pdomensis mentioned, that story is very strange. Supposedly the victim revived a salmonella-tainted blood transfusion and died as a result of septic shock. The donor of the blood kept snakes including a Boa and the hospital claimed the salmonella came from the Boa. Figure that one out. If you have information to back up your outlandish claims I too would be very interested. There are inherent dangers to working with any animal (not just snakes) but please do not exaggerate the risks or make outrageous claims that can not be backed up with facts.

^^^^^
thanks,you just saved me a lot of writing .....

i agree with you 100% mate


cheers shaun