My BP regurgitated her meal hours after eatting - Page 2

Wykyd · 07-11-14, 09:02 PM

Any reason it would just start affecting her now? Is the "insecurity" something that builds over time?

Wykyd · 07-14-14, 03:37 PM

One last question, when would it be okay to feed her again? She seems very hungry. Been hunting the tank nightly, and today she's been out all day.

**EL Ziggy** · 07-14-14, 04:50 PM

I've heard others say 7 days but I would wait 10-14 days after a regurge to feed again. Best wishes.

**Aaron_S** · 07-14-14, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Wykyd

One last question, when would it be okay to feed her again? She seems very hungry. Been hunting the tank nightly, and today she's been out all day.

Yes, you can.

It could simply be she was afraid of something. Handled too soon afterwards? Maybe not by you?

Very odd to randomly regurge.

Anyway, you can attempt to feed and see how it goes.

You can upgrade to rat pups when you're done you're adult mice.

Wykyd · 07-14-14, 07:32 PM

Definitely no one handled her... I'm wondering if it had to do with her not being able to fit into her hide with the meal inside her... I noticed recently smears on the glass around the entrance to the hide, tho the regurge was behind the hide (hot hide, the one she's ALWAYS in).

I read something about cutting her meals down to 1/2 size for around a month to make sure she's digesting okay... assuming that's a good move. I just wish I could make her feel better, poor thing still has 9 more days if I wait 2 weeks total.

**Aaron_S** · 07-15-14, 06:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Wykyd

Definitely no one handled her... I'm wondering if it had to do with her not being able to fit into her hide with the meal inside her... I noticed recently smears on the glass around the entrance to the hide, tho the regurge was behind the hide (hot hide, the one she's ALWAYS in).

I read something about cutting her meals down to 1/2 size for around a month to make sure she's digesting okay... assuming that's a good move. I just wish I could make her feel better, poor thing still has 9 more days if I wait 2 weeks total.

Adult mouse isn't a stretch of a meal for her so I would just stick with that.

No, she won't regurge because she can't fit in a hide.

If she does it again then you may have an issue but for a one time thing I wouldn't worry too much about it.

Chris72 · 07-15-14, 10:30 AM

When you say that you just got over a fit of mites.....what does that look like?

How long ago?
Has the animal taken meals since treatment?
How did you clean the tank (and things inside) after treatment?

franks · 07-15-14, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Chris72

When you say that you just got over a fit of mites.....what does that look like?

How long ago?
Has the animal taken meals since treatment?
How did you clean the tank (and things inside) after treatment?

Chris- cam mites cause regurgitation?

Wykyd · 07-15-14, 10:57 AM

It's been about 3 weeks now. I treated her with reptile spray for mites, sprayed it on my hand and rubbed it in (this was every 3 days). I soaked her in 82°F water daily. Every time I treated her I treated her tank, hides and water dish. Sprayed everything down with the treatment spray then rinsed with hot water. Wiped the tank down with hot soaked paper towels. Lasted about 3 weeks total, she shed prior to the mites appearing, ate regularly (adult mice). After the initial bunch there was only ever a couple mites at a time between treatments.

Chris72 · 07-15-14, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by franks

Chris- cam mites cause regurgitation?

I don't think they can directly.

Although a bad case of mites could cause internal illness that could indirectly.

I was thinking more of the chemicals.

Wykyd · 07-15-14, 11:14 AM

Also I removed all bedding and lined the tank with paper towels that I changed daily.

The start was when I had finally gotten her tank set up correctly with good temps and humidity, apparently the store I got her from had a batch of mites right after I got her but mine took a long time to mature due to the inadequate temps. I came home to her one day soaking in her water dish and made that horrible discovery... initially there was probably 20-30 mites that I could see in the dish... After that the numbers dwindled fast but took about 3 weeks before I didn't see any at all. Gave it another 2 weeks before I put her bedding back in... which made her quite happy as she would not move from the top of the tstat the entire treatment time. As soon as I put the bedding in she slithered right into her hot hide.

Wykyd · 07-15-14, 11:15 AM

The only time she was not eating regularly for me was when I first got her... since then she's been doing great.

Wykyd · 07-15-14, 11:27 AM

Is it possible the mouse was "bad"? The week before I thawed a mouse and as I was dangling it the belly broke open and black smelly stuff came out. Threw it away and thawed out another which she ate fine.

Chris72 · 07-15-14, 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Wykyd

It's been about 3 weeks now. I treated her with reptile spray for mites, sprayed it on my hand and rubbed it in (this was every 3 days). I soaked her in 82°F water daily. Every time I treated her I treated her tank, hides and water dish. Sprayed everything down with the treatment spray then rinsed with hot water. Wiped the tank down with hot soaked paper towels. Lasted about 3 weeks total, she shed prior to the mites appearing, ate regularly (adult mice). After the initial bunch there was only ever a couple mites at a time between treatments.

Most importantly: Never, ever, ever, under any circumstances spray anything with Permethrin (like Pervent-a-mite) on your skin, or inhale it. It is a carcinogenic, neurotoxic poison. If you get it on your snake it must be washed off, and the water dish should be OUT of the enclosure for a couple of hrs after spray. The permethrine will turn the water to poison.

So it's been three weeks since you stopped treatment? Or am I reading it right that treatment just ended, it lasted three weeks and she hasn't eaten since before the mites?

Three weeks might (mite) not be enough if there is eggs. The sprays don't kill eggs that have been laid already so keep an eye on that.

How old is that substrate in the tank please?..........?

Wykyd · 07-15-14, 11:49 AM

I didn't use PAM, I'll send a pic when I get home. Substrate is fresh, new bag. It's been almost a month now that I think about it since treatment ended.... The entire treatment lasted 3 weeks. She never stopped eating regularly even during treatment.