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Old 01-13-14, 09:51 AM   #16
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if you tell people the facts, along with your opinion, then it is upto them to make their minds up, having been well informed, but telling people to blindly follow the advice and that it is safe, is massively irresponsible.

the facts, are that burning plastic = toxic and carcinogenic chemicals being released and potentially inhaled, regardless of ventilation, and Hydrochloric Acid can do significant damage to any ventilation system or equipment being used, or the persons eyes, mouth and lungs.
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if you tell people the facts, along with your opinion, then it is upto them to make their minds up, having been well informed, but telling people to blindly follow the advice and that it is safe, is massively irresponsible.

the facts, are that burning plastic = toxic and carcinogenic chemicals being released and potentially inhaled, regardless of ventilation, and Hydrochloric Acid can do significant damage to any ventilation system or equipment being used, or the persons eyes, mouth and lungs.
Standing behind a car exhaust is deadly too. Should that mean I should avoid my cars too?

If your in a well ventilated area, IE outside, there isnt a problem.
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Standing behind a car exhaust is deadly too. Should that mean I should avoid my cars too?

If your in a well ventilated area, IE outside, there isnt a problem.
Yes! actually given the way governments bang on about Cigerette smoke, I'm amazed that Cars are even legal, or arnt forced to have a 200m exclusion zone around them and big health warnings plastered on the sides

o wait...they make lots of money in taxes dont they....

sometimes bad things make to much money for anyone to realistically complain about it


being serious however, no, this makes no sense, drills are designed for making holes, soldering irons are not, there is no comparison between using a car, which is designed to do what it does, and using a tool to do something it is not designed to do....simply because it requires slightly less effort and thought
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Well...I don't trust myself using anything hot anyway. For now, a drill it is.
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Old 01-13-14, 06:44 PM   #20
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Yes! actually given the way governments bang on about Cigerette smoke, I'm amazed that Cars are even legal, or arnt forced to have a 200m exclusion zone around them and big health warnings plastered on the sides

o wait...they make lots of money in taxes dont they....

sometimes bad things make to much money for anyone to realistically complain about it


being serious however, no, this makes no sense, drills are designed for making holes, soldering irons are not, there is no comparison between using a car, which is designed to do what it does, and using a tool to do something it is not designed to do....simply because it requires slightly less effort and thought
In the uk they do. You guys have a tax for just opening the door and turning the car on.

I work in a CNC shop, thing I've learned most from working there. Even if the tool isn't designed for it, if it gets the job done, and does it well, it's good.
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Old 01-13-14, 07:19 PM   #21
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In the uk they do. You guys have a tax for just opening the door and turning the car on.

I work in a CNC shop, thing I've learned most from working there. Even if the tool isn't designed for it, if it gets the job done, and does it well, it's good.
While there is some truth to that some tools will not get the job done. Like you can not use a compression bit or down cutter with acrylic on a nested base machine because you will get a nasty re-weld. I also use to work in the shop running a cnc. But this has no relevance to the topic being debated.

So yes a soldering iron will get the job done in this case. But so will drilling. So who cares. Formica just simply stated a fact that holds truth. Doesn't need to turn into a pissing match.
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While there is some truth to that some tools will not get the job done. Like you can not use a compression bit or down cutter with acrylic on a nested base machine because you will get a nasty re-weld. I also use to work in the shop running a cnc. But this has no relevance to the topic being debated.

So yes a soldering iron will get the job done in this case. But so will drilling. So who cares. Formica just simply stated a fact that holds truth. Doesn't need to turn into a pissing match.
My original comment was more of smart remark than starting a huge debate over a hole.

Never worked with acrylic on a CNC before, shop I work at typically just works with alum, steel, bronze and some plastics and nylon.
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My original comment was more of smart remark than starting a huge debate over a hole.

Never worked with acrylic on a CNC before, shop I work at typically just works with alum, steel, bronze and some plastics and nylon.

May I ask where you work since your in Michigan?
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May I ask where you work since your in Michigan?
Sure, I work at a smaller size shop called Scott Machine. We make aerospace parts for the most part, some automotive comes through occasionlly.

St Clair, isn't that in the UP?
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St. Clair shores is on the east coast. By Roseville, Detroit, and east pointe.

Nice! You guys hiring anyone in engineering? Lol jk. I work for a company called Palmer retail solutions. I do engineering and cnc programming. We do pretty much everything. No aerospace parts though....
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