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[Matt_K]

Regan when asked which he would save, a dog or a baby, if a boat capsized in the ocean: "If it were a ******** baby and a bright dog, I'd save the dog."

-Tom Regan, Q&A session following a speech, University of Wisconsin-Madison, October 27, 1989.

"In a perfect world, animals would be free to live their lives to the fullest: raising their young, enjoying their native environments, and following their natural instincts. However, domesticated dogs and cats cannot survive "free" in our concrete jungles, so we must take as good care of them as possible. People with the time, money, love, and patience to make a lifetime commitment to an animal can make an enormous difference by adopting from shelters or rescuing animals from a perilous life on the street. But it is also important to stop manufacturing "pets," thereby perpetuating a class of animals forced to rely on humans to survive."

-PETA pamphlet, Companion Animals: Pets or Prisoners?

You better not let your PETA friends see you post pics of your furry animals Rikki!!!

Yup, you're backing a winner.. :thumbsup:

[HeatherRose]

I agree. Your facts just don't look convincing when they're from PETA themselves...

[Matt_K]

Originally posted by clint545
Just my opinion, I'll butt out now.

Don't butt out, it's apparently healthier than eating a hamburger!!

[Paleosuchus]

Post's such as these are always to funny. One big pile of contradiction.

[chameo_liz]

What I find funny is how people make them selves look childish when these debates come up, and I am supposed to respect these people later?

Kris

[Rikki]

From Kyrosera@yahoo.com sent on December 20, 2004, 5:41 PM

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To: info@peta.org

Ive heard statements that you are against the keeping of pets, is this true?
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Thank You
Happy Holidays!

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From info@peta.org recceived December 20, 2004, 5:52 PM

Hello, thank you for contacting People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals. Lindy has responded to your email:

Hello Rikki,

Thank you for your email. PETA's mission is for complete animal liberation. Animals are not ours to eat, wear, or test upon. Animals have been domesticated into breeds simply to please humans. As animals have already been domesticated and would not know how to survice on there own it is our responsibility to protect the animals of the planet. Animals should not be sold and treated as a "nothing", animals need our help as said above. PETA supports animal adoption and rescue, though we are greatly against the general pet trade. If you have any more questions please feel free to reply and you will be assisted as soon as possible.

Thank You,
Lindy Hailes
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[Matt_K]

Originally posted by chameo_liz
What I find funny is how people make them selves look childish when these debates come up, and I am supposed to respect these people later?

Kris

Who are you talking about in this instance? I don't see anyone acting 'childish'..

[HeatherRose]

PETA supports animal adoption and rescue, though we are greatly against the general pet ttrade. .

I guess I don't have to eat my hat now... Which is good, because I don't really have a hat...

Point is...they are against us breeding and buying more herps, right? It affects us all, doesn't it?

[Rikki]

We would be better off rescueing, though you really dont see as much of a over population of reptiles as you would with cats or dogs.

I do rescue all of my herps though

[marisa]

Talking about PETA and other organizations like them is VERY important IMHO on websites like this. Why? Because they are one type of people who will attempt to remove our rights to keep snakes at one time or another. There are other types and groups who do this as well, but PETA and organizations like it are a threat to the hobby.

While this particular thread might not have been the place to do it, here we are. LOL

Anyways, it is VERY clear from the email posted that PETA is against the reptile trade.

Anyone who wants to remove my rights is someone I am against. No one is attacking your beliefs Rikki but the problem is why participate with PETA if you also keep pets? You are on a reptile website, one that PETA would NOT agree with. So I think the members here do not understand where you are coming from.

Marisa

[REH]

It is to cold to eat your hat! You might end up with all the brain cells of the PETA executive.

Richard from Alberta

[HeatherRose]

Good on you

Have you ever looked into what PETA does with the animals dropped off at their 'rescue'?

In 1999, PETA euthanized 1,325 of the 2,103 animals it took. PETA claimed that euthanizing the cats was much kinder than leaving them in the streets. PETA made the statement that a quick painless death is much better than a slow painful one. However, when hunters or farmers talk of quick painless ways of killing animals, PETA calls them barbarians and claim no animal death is justified

and...

A former PETA employee spoke of one particular incident that burned into her mind forever: A teary-eyed man showed up at PETA headquarters one day with his beloved pet rabbit. The man had grown old and sick and was no longer able to care properly for his friend. He supplied a cage, bed, toys, and even vet records for this pet. He was assured by PETA workers that they would take "good care" of his rabbit and find him a home. The man left distraught but no doubt believing that his friend would be able to live out the rest of his life in a loving, compassionate home...PETA workers carried him to the 'death house' immediately and ended his life!

-http://www.american-partisan.com/cols/2003/gibson/qtr3/0903.htm

and so on, and so on...

[Rikki]

That was a childish remark :P..... You are calling someone "dumb" because they do not have the same beleifs as you, i dont think thats right....

I do not beleive PETA would be completly agains sSnakeSs as alot of us here are rescuers, PETA mainly focuses on the anit pet trade of cats and dogs.

I really do not want to make any one mad. I love this place and I love all of you guys even though we may have different beleifs and I hope you feel the same.

[Matt_K]

What I do not understand is how you got so much pull with PETA?? I just sent an email to them at the address you provided.. Unlike yourself, I did not get such a quick response from anyone.. Instead, I got this..

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[HeatherRose]

No one called anyone dumb...we were just curious as to why someone owns animals if you if they truly understand the organizations motives... that's all Or, what Marisa said :P