The one and ONLY python BAN thread (HR511) - Page 19

KORBIN5895 · 01-24-12, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Gungirl

Just FYI It is against the law to spit on the ground in many places... Laws are made and then ignored. Stop getting your panties in a bunch over stuff that isn't going to get enforced.

That's what I was trying to say!

Strutter769 · 01-24-12, 04:04 PM

[QUOTE=KORBIN5895;673212]Hey Roy please don't think I was attacking you. I wasn't. My point is that this ban will not stop anything but......[QUOTE]

No thoughts of that at all. In fact it's a bonus. That was one of the points I was trying to get across.

In the summertime, I would take Lucy outside (80° or above in the shade) in the back yard pretty frequently, one day we brought her to the front yard, which of course drew curious attention from the neighbors. It also drew notice from a passing officer if the law..... who passed us by.....put the squad car in reverse.... to come back to take a picture of Lucy to show his kids who "would go crazy" from it.

It wasn't until a "family member" had a grudge against us and notified the police of Marcy's pet chickens. It was that day, after spending 36.5 of my nearly 39 years on this planet in Elgin, that I learned ALL REPTILES are illegal to possess in my town.

New Mexico, save a nice spot for us! We'll be there when we can! Question is: For how long will that matter before bans spread like a contagion.

Sidenote: Posted while slightly under the influence... Prescribed.... To me... I promise.

**millertime89** · 01-25-12, 02:46 PM

the fear is that its a slippery slope as strutter mentioned.
I have no problem with a ban, or at the very least extremely tight restrictions on the importation of new snakes. I think that should be reserved to the biggest names in the business that have good(ish) ethics about imports such as Harry Wessels, Bob Clark (maybe), NERD, and Prehistoric Pets. It should be allowed for new morphs, and getting new blood into the existing population, and if there's a new world record size captured that a zoo could use for educational purposes. That's it.

**millertime89** · 01-25-12, 02:49 PM

like I said, slippery slope, here's Rhode Island
- Rhode Island moves to ban Pythons, Boas and more
looks to be way to vague though.
http://www.rilin.state.ri.us/BillTex...xt12/S2033.pdf

youngster · 01-25-12, 03:20 PM

Oh no!!!

RI is close to me.
That would suuuuck, then New England would catch on...

**millertime89** · 01-25-12, 04:06 PM

Its way too broad, I doubt it'll get passed even if it does manage to hit the floor.

Jenn_06 · 01-25-12, 05:34 PM

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**millertime89** · 02-16-12, 07:05 PM

bump, I heard from an acquaintance who recently spoke with USFWS. The ban does not go into effect on March 23rd like a lot of people think. The ban goes into effect 60 days after the snakes are placed on the list of injurious animals, which has not been done yet. I'm trying to stay up to date on everything but there's a lot of info out there. I'll try and keep this thread updated.

Rogue628 · 02-16-12, 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by millertime89

bump, I heard from an acquaintance who recently spoke with USFWS. The ban does not go into effect on March 23rd like a lot of people think. The ban goes into effect 60 days after the snakes are placed on the list of injurious animals, which has not been done yet. I'm trying to stay up to date on everything but there's a lot of info out there. I'll try and keep this thread updated.

I keep hearing that they've already been placed on that list. But I've also heard they haven't.

cute_snakeyface · 02-16-12, 08:58 PM

I will never surrender my Ball! >: \

**millertime89** · 02-17-12, 12:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Rogue628

I keep hearing that they've already been placed on that list. But I've also heard they haven't.

they haven't, but they're going to.
here's the current list
www.fws.gov/fisheries/ans/Current_Listed_IW.pdf

edit: you might also see this one, if you notice the note at the bottom that the "big 9" are under consideration.
http://www.fws.gov/fisheries/ANS/pdf..._Listed_IW.pdf

Strutter769 · 02-29-12, 08:14 PM

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Skumbo · 02-29-12, 08:25 PM

As for the enforcement thing, it is true that I am not worried about them coming and taking my snakes from me, whether I had a burm, cornsnake, etc. nobody will know what I have in my home. The problem is for breeders, and I'm willing to fight to help them (slippery slope aside, though that is a very realistic reason)

CK SandBoas · 03-01-12, 01:29 PM

Regular Session 2011-2012 House Bill 2233 P.N. 3155

Skumbo · 03-01-12, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by KKgal

Regular Session 2011-2012 House Bill 2233 P.N. 3155

So.. did that pass?

If so, I actually (if implemented correctly, which it wont be..) Would agree with that. It would stop a lot of the horrible conditions that reptiles end up in.

Sadly, realistically, its just a way to make money off of people wanting pets, and limits a lot of things and most likely wont have proper regulatory body to ensure everything goes correctly