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04-17-13, 10:49 AM
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Re: Savannah Monitor skin issue
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I don`t think you understand at all, can you give me the length and mass of this monitor, and maybe you can actually specify what you mean by "drop it`s core" (are you suggesting there will not be a drop, and it`s core temp will remain the same)? Of course the core body temp will fall somewhat in a few minutes in a small monitor, unless obviously the room is heated close to their "preferred body temp" of around 94f.
I`d like to ask you a question; if the monitor in question was left in the room with an ambient temp of 80f for an hour, what would it`s core body temp be after the 60 minutes? Thanks! 
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Colder than 94 and on its way to 80? do I get a prize if I win???
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04-17-13, 10:54 AM
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Re: Savannah Monitor skin issue
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Colder than 94 and on its way to 80? do I get a prize if I win???
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It wasn`t a trick question, they have the ability to raise their core temps to some degree by endogenous means (shhhh, that`s between me and you).
I believe Deadly desires won the only prize offered on this website (a trip around the world), compliments of Wayne (Infernalis), so no, you don`t win a thing....
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04-17-13, 10:56 AM
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Re: Savannah Monitor skin issue
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Originally Posted by murrindindi
It wasn`t a trick question, they have the ability to raise their core temps to some degree by endogenous means (shhhh, that`s between me and you).
I believe Deadly desires won the only prize offered on this website (a trip around the world), compliments of Wayne (Infernalis), so no, you don`t win a thing....
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They are not strictly exothermic? Im such a noob, but surely it was colder than 94 which makes it on its way to 80 , no? Can they actually maintain core temps completely , for how long ???
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04-17-13, 11:04 AM
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Re: Savannah Monitor skin issue
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They are not strictly exothermic? Im such a noob, but surely it was colder than 94 which makes it on its way to 80 , no? Can they actually maintain core temps completely , for how long ???
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They are capable of raising their core temps by 2c which is very useful, as it means they can begin/continue activity that much quicker/longer.
Now you`ve gone and made me give the answer to the question I wanted V87 to answer (unless he never returns)..... (I bet he will, though)....
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04-17-13, 11:15 AM
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Re: Savannah Monitor skin issue
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Originally Posted by murrindindi
I don`t think you understand at all, can you give me the length and mass of this monitor, and maybe you can actually specify what you mean by "drop it`s core" (are you suggesting there will not be a drop, and it`s core temp will remain the same)? Of course the core body temp will fall somewhat in a few minutes in a small monitor, unless obviously the room is heated close to their "preferred body temp" of around 94f.
I`d like to ask you a question; if the monitor in question was left in the room with an ambient temp of 80f for an hour, what would it`s core body temp be after the 60 minutes? Thanks! 
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I'm truth I don't knw and I don't think anyone could say it all depends not the activity and the size and the health of the moni and sp ... But I knw they can raise their temp by a few degrees in order to maintain activity levels and such in a pinch but other sp of reps can do this also ....
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04-17-13, 11:40 AM
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Re: Savannah Monitor skin issue
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yea, you missed other posts, anyway, i dont really care what anyone says anymore.. im finished with it. which means im done talking about it as well.
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That's a good idea. Talking about things you really don't know is never a good idea.
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04-17-13, 12:27 PM
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Re: Savannah Monitor skin issue
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Originally Posted by murrindindi
It wasn`t a trick question, they have the ability to raise their core temps to some degree by endogenous means (shhhh, that`s between me and you).
I believe Deadly desires won the only prize offered on this website (a trip around the world), compliments of Wayne (Infernalis), so no, you don`t win a thing....
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i might be stupid right now,but....... i dont quite understand this statement lol...
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04-17-13, 12:50 PM
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Re: Savannah Monitor skin issue
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Originally Posted by murrindindi
I don`t think you understand at all, can you give me the length and mass of this monitor, and maybe you can actually specify what you mean by "drop it`s core" (are you suggesting there will not be a drop, and it`s core temp will remain the same)? Of course the core body temp will fall somewhat in a few minutes in a small monitor, unless obviously the room is heated close to their "preferred body temp" of around 94f.
I`d like to ask you a question; if the monitor in question was left in the room with an ambient temp of 80f for an hour, what would it`s core body temp be after the 60 minutes? Thanks! 
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So that being said ... Dont think u understand....When people take there moni out in the summer months for a hour at a time or sometimes more can u tell me how this does not have detrimental affects to a monitors health .other than stress ... As I don't knw many places that reach 34 degrees Celsius in the summer in the uk ... As it is the preferred moni body temp don't u knw ...
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04-17-13, 12:51 PM
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Re: Savannah Monitor skin issue
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They are capable of raising their core temps by 2c which is very useful, as it means they can begin/continue activity that much quicker/longer.
Now you`ve gone and made me give the answer to the question I wanted V87 to answer (unless he never returns)..... (I bet he will, though).... 
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Sorry to disappoint ....
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04-17-13, 01:00 PM
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Re: Savannah Monitor skin issue
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Originally Posted by DeadlyDesires
i might be stupid right now,but....... i dont quite understand this statement lol...
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I can`t remember what it was that I agreed with, but something you said made sense, therefore you were entitled to a prize, I kindly suggested Wayne would probably like offer you a trip around the world at his expense.... Or maybe I`m a little confused, and you didn`t say anything I agreed with, and Wayne isn`t sending you on the trip???
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04-17-13, 01:02 PM
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Re: Savannah Monitor skin issue
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I can`t remember what it was that I agreed with, but something you said made sense, therefore you were entitled to a prize, I kindly suggested Wayne would probably like offer you a trip around the world at his expense.... Or maybe I`m a little confused, and you didn`t say anything I agreed with, and Wayne isn`t sending you on the trip??? 
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oh nevermind lol i remember, it was on a different thread lmfao :P
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04-17-13, 01:14 PM
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Re: Savannah Monitor skin issue
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Originally Posted by V87
So that being said ... Dont think u understand....When people take there moni out in the summer months for a hour at a time or sometimes more can u tell me how this does not have detrimental affects to a monitors health .other than stress ... As I don't knw many places that reach 34 degrees Celsius in the summer in the uk ... As it is the preferred moni body temp don't u knw ...
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I`m definitely getting confused now, I`ve never suggested their core body temp doesn`t drop, YOU said it wouldn`t change in 5 minutes or so, I said it would (inside a "warm" house), but you didn`t state any temps!?
I allow my Asian Water monitor outside when the weather gets warmer (not often here in England, obviously).
It doesn`t need to be in the 90`sF, the surfaces can be quite high even if the ambient is around 75 to 80f. I don`t think my monitor suffers in the least, and he`s as calm as can be, so it is enrichment (so he gains from it). I must point out my animal is 6 feet long and weighs around 20lbs just now so he won`t lose too much (core) heat during the time he`s out (maybe 15mins).
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04-17-13, 01:19 PM
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Re: Savannah Monitor skin issue
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Originally Posted by murrindindi
I`m definitely getting confused now, I`ve never suggested their core body temp doesn`t drop, YOU said it wouldn`t change in 5 minutes or so, I said it would (inside a "warm" house), but you didn`t state any temps!?
I allow my Asian Water monitor outside when the weather gets warmer (not often here in England, obviously).
It doesn`t need to be in the 90`sF, the surfaces can be quite high even if the ambient is around 75 to 80f. I don`t think my monitor suffers in the least, and he`s as calm as can be, so it is enrichment (so he gains from it). I must point out my animal is 6 feet long and weighs around 20lbs just now so he won`t lose too much (core) heat during the time he`s out (maybe 15mins).
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This is getting confusing ... My whole main point posters earlier was that the 5 mins out of an enclosure will not b detrimental to a monis health aslong as its not a freezer obviously ... And 2 that there core would not drop after five mins in a house that hopefully isn't at artic conditions ... To which u said it would ??? And I have already stated that out time out of an enclosure is good and enriching to which u asked me a question in which to try and show off about wether there core would drop in a 80f room to which I answerd ...... So where am I getting things confused ???
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04-23-13, 02:24 PM
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Re: Savannah Monitor skin issue
Here is Zazu today with 100% healed belly and feet. Crazy to think at one point I thought she was going to die. She wasnt interested in food and wouldnt move. Now she tries to eat me when I go in her enclosure haha
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04-23-13, 03:15 PM
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Re: Savannah Monitor skin issue
Hi, that`s great, well done!
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