Boa & Python Breeding together - Page 11

SerpentLust · 08-25-04, 06:36 AM

Wow, now that was an interesting read. My only thoughts on the matter are best wishes with the babies and keep us updated.

The only thing that kept running through my head was the same thing Invictus brought up. Honest mistake however I do hope that in the future he will not be housing them together as you have now probably learned that they are solitary animals from different ends of the world.

Other than the housing together, I can only wish you luck and hopefully we'll figure out what's going on.

Jenn

Goopers5 · 08-25-04, 07:36 AM

Lostwithin: No problem, go it!

Leviathan · 08-26-04, 07:15 PM

my email is chausette@hotmail.com
Hope all is good with the babies!

daver676 · 08-26-04, 11:14 PM

Wow. Some of those snakes are in rough shape. Poor things. And I gotta ask. What the hell am I looking at in this pic? Is this one snake THAT severely deformed, or am I just seeing things?

PS. If you (Goopers5) have any problem with me posting this pic, let me know and it will be gone.

Goopers5 · 08-27-04, 07:55 AM

That one actually was the deformed one that died. The pictures are from when they first came out of the eggs, the snakes now look awesome and healthy, some in the pictures didn't make it... The ones that did are active and beautiful! If you look at the later pictures you can see them starting to turn around.

hip · 08-27-04, 09:34 AM

Very Interesting Read (I did read all the way from the first) the links that Katt posted were very informative and could be exactly what happened. Like Ryan said DNA or chromosome testing using the mother as the control would give you the only factual answer on what really happened. You can find my e mail here on the site under my profile. Hopefully you will have some scientific feed back soon.

Hip

Linds · 08-27-04, 11:45 AM

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Originally posted by Invictus
He would also know that maternal incubation gives the eggs about a 10% survival rate, IF that.

Where are you getting your stats from? There are several breeders that successfully use maternal incubation in their programs, one that comes to mind is Rob Carmichael. He's experienced 100% survival rates allowing the mother to incubate her own eggs.

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Originally posted by lizlady
I think the only reason that people(including me) are being well less then nice is because she should never have housed them together and i think the only reason someone would put a python and boa together would be to try and breed them (that is my opinion),

1) There is no reason to be less than nice in the event someone doesn't know something. Bashing them won't solve anything, educating is the only way to help correct the problem. 2) Many people house animals together for other reasons than to breed, such as they they believe they 'enjoy the company', or want the convenience of only having one cage (this is by far the most common reason two animals are housed together).

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Originally posted by jmkhets
even if the snakes were hybrids keep in mind the babies would not be able to reproduce...since ALL hybrids are sterile.A little trick from god to keep us honest

All hybrids are most certainly not sterile, or we wouldn't have so many problems with hybrids being reproduced and being (accidentally)dishonestly distibuted. Look at Jungle Corns (corn/king), Argentine/Bci, Retic/Burm, etc., they can all reproduce perfectly fine.

hip · 08-27-04, 09:01 PM

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dave68 and dave68's wife really you need your wife to protect you, cry me a river......and he can bite me where ever he think is nice and juicy. As far as my spelling mistakes if that is all you can think of to say when you need help and i can fix my spelling mistakes but you cant fix your husband. I can not believe that you would go and get your wifey poo to talk for you is it suppost to intimate me becuase she say she is your wife,lllooook aattttt meeee sssshhaakee (i can not even type i am so worried). I really think it funny when people on any forum make fun of someone typing it is sooo funny as you can not think of anything eles to say,OH WAIT MAYBE I SHOULD GET MY HUSBAND TO TALK TO YOUR HUSBAND(MY HUSBAND IS BIGGER THEN YOUR HUSBAND)REALLY, BY THE WAY IF YOU DONT KNOW WHO SOMEONE IS YOU MIGHT NOT WANT TO TELL THEM TO GROW UP AS YOU DONT KNOW HOW OLD I AM OR FOR THAT MATTER WHO I AM.And if your big man does not want me to say anything to him then dont post a reply to anything that i say,i was not talking to him but he want to post his opinion and thats how it started so maybe you should mind your own as well. thanks for the laugh, smoooothies.

Proves to me what some people have been telling me in my absence over the last little while. A sad state of affairs indeed when this kind of stuff happens. Too bad the bite me post was deleted I would have used it to better myself in the journey of life. You are 31 years old. Who you are does not matter as we all get to post here under assumed names and that is the beauty of some forums here on the internet. We can be professional respected people during the day at work and “crazy herpers" in our off time. Dave 68 is an awesome member and does not need defending from me his presence here is a bonus to all of us, and in the event of his loss would diminish us all and this forum. Honestly lizlady this post was not called for and reflects on all of us badly as a whole, this community is never thought of as single persons by the masses but a group and in that retrospect the words of one effect us all to the same extent.

Hip

varanus69 · 08-29-04, 06:02 PM

I have heard of one female burm that was housed at a zoo with out a male in the states that layed viable eggs that did hatch . I can not remember the name for birth with out a father but that was the case there and POSSIBLY the case here.It was printed in a previous issue of reptiles magazine under the "herp news" article, if anyone wants to go looking for it.I would but i sold all my magazines.

Goopers5 · 08-30-04, 08:01 AM

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Originally posted by varanus69
It was printed in a previous issue of reptiles magazine under the "herp news" article, if anyone wants to go looking for it.I would but i sold all my magazines.

Do you know when the article was? (We have STACKS of reptile magazine all over the house, I can look if I know about when it was published... THANKS!)

sincity · 08-30-04, 08:37 AM

So someone comes on this site looking for help and information and 11 pages (95% is flack) is what they get?
Man, remind me never to ask a question on this site ever again.
Very professional people! Well run site. Nice people....

lostwithin · 08-30-04, 09:51 AM

Hey, Just wanted too point out that it isn’t 11 pages of "flack" actually very little of it is (that’s still more then there should be), many seemed very interested in the topic.
Although recently I have noticed allot of threads going down hill. From people who rather take shots and starting meaningless fights then give answers and ask questions. I think who are not interested in the topic should not participate. I can almost grantee your post will be just as "non-productive" though. Comments like yours will only bring the people who aren’t interested in the topic back just too argue that you unfairly said they were giving "flack" for no reason. You gave no comment of info on the topic at hand, just basically gave the part that should be ignored a chance too resurface. You may have done it out of good intentions too make those who are starting these argument look bad, but it just adds fuel too the fire.

Just my 2 cents people. I still think it’s a great site, even with the increase of people who enjoy keeping the mod’s on there toes. Lol.

Devon

sincity · 08-30-04, 11:48 AM

I didn't post an opinion because ALLOT of good advice was given.

However, this is obviously someone new at this, or young, and A TON of people jumped down his throat.

I just felt bad for the kid.

I'm not gonna argue about this cause I dont care, I simply feel the person who started the thread deserves a medal for putting up with all the crap he took in search of help.

And for the ones who offered good honest advice, this is not directed at you one bit.

Good luck fella, I hope your little snake makes it.

Linds · 08-30-04, 01:28 PM

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Originally posted by sincity
However, this is obviously someone new at this, or young, and A TON of people jumped down his throat....

...I'm not gonna argue about this cause I dont care, I simply feel the person who started the thread deserves a medal for putting up with all the crap he took in search of help.

Hanging around on the forums enough, you get to see that sometimes people may 'pose' in this manner, just trolling the forums, posting stuff to get a rise out of people. This isn't the case here, but I'm sure that's why so many people jumped on her. It really is quite unfortunate it had to happen that way, and I do agree, kudos to Goopers5 for sticking through all the mudslinging.

lostwithin · 08-30-04, 01:47 PM

I would have too agree , its a shame how some people respond, I'm still waiting for that update. I'd really like too know how it turns out.

Devon