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01-18-12, 06:33 PM
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Re: Ban threads combined
Not sure if you guys have seen this website, or how much it's actually worth, but I signed the petition. Over turn the python ban | Change.org
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01-18-12, 06:46 PM
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Re: Ban threads combined
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You can also sign this if you live outside the states as well. So I've signed and posted it on facebook..
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01-18-12, 08:58 PM
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Re: Ban threads combined
Not sure who said it, but I agree there should be tighter regulations on larger animals or even those that are not for beginners.
I'm sure responsible keepers would have no problem acquiring special license or permits to have these animals *as long as the gubberment doesn't demand an arm, leg, and more for them. Maybe even a sort of tier system that encompasses breeding and selling.
Now that I think of it, I think most states, including my own already have some permits and licensing that are required, yet it's not regulated so either noone knows about them or chose to ignore them because there's not enough of a penalty/fine or it's not regulated properly by the state wildlife and fisheries division, like in my state.
Either way, regardless of the ban or even a better regulation on animals, people are still going to buy, sell, and transport these animals illegally. But at least with better regulation we can hope to keep that down to a smaller number.
And I still don't get how they think this ban is going to help the Florida Everglades. After all, that's what the ban is about right? Maybe someone can explain it to me or correct me if I'm wrong.....
The way the US is starting to become, other countries are beginning to look better and better....
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01-18-12, 09:18 PM
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"Snake Ban Does Does Not Go Far Enough"
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01-18-12, 09:20 PM
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#155
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Re: Ban threads combined
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Originally Posted by Kayla90
You can also sign this if you live outside the states as well. So I've signed and posted it on facebook..
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I too have signed and FB'd. Just sayin'.
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01-18-12, 10:40 PM
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Re: Ban threads combined
There's a petition on the Whitehouse website to overturn this ban that can destroy a pretty big chunk of the reptile industry... so sign it and pass it on to all of your friends on facebook, twitter, and other herp forums.
The petition can be found here: https://wwws.whitehouse.gov/petition...4Y#thank-you=p
You do need to make an account if you don't already have one. There's a goal of 25,000 signatures, so every person counts.
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01-18-12, 10:42 PM
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Boa Boy Roy
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Re: Ban threads combined
I get a "404 Page Not Found"
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"The question is do we allow the government to take our property rights away from us based on unfounded manipulations from a special interest group?" ~ Erika N. Chen-Walsh, President, U.S. Help Alliance
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01-18-12, 10:45 PM
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Re: Ban threads combined
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I get a "404 Page Not Found"
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I did, as well.
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01-18-12, 10:52 PM
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Re: Ban threads combined
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Originally Posted by Rogue628
There's a petition on the Whitehouse website to overturn this ban that can destroy a pretty big chunk of the reptile industry... so sign it and pass it on to all of your friends on facebook, twitter, and other herp forums.
The petition can be found here: https://wwws.whitehouse.gov/petition...4Y#thank-you=p
You do need to make an account if you don't already have one. There's a goal of 25,000 signatures, so every person counts.
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The goal was 25,000 for the other position but we BARELY reached 9,000 this is pathetic
I got a 404 page not found to
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01-18-12, 11:01 PM
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Re: Ban threads combined
Don't know why it's file not found. It was there just a couple of minutes ago. Maybe too much traffic?
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01-18-12, 11:03 PM
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Re: Ban threads combined
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01-19-12, 07:36 AM
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Re: Ban threads combined
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01-19-12, 07:52 AM
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Re: Ban threads combined
I'll post again...just went to it to make sure it's a good link
https://wwws.whitehouse.gov/petition...4Y#thank-you=p
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01-19-12, 09:31 AM
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Re: Ban threads combined
Thanks both of you i just signed both.
Alessia it was Roques link they were having problems with. Now it working fine.
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01-19-12, 09:39 AM
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Re: Ban threads combined
I still believe people should let this go through. I WOULD also be content if they amend the bill based on size and not species. We have here in my city a 3 metre by-law. That's 10 feet. That fits all reasonable species in there with plenty of options for "giants" without a lot of danger.
I believe someone asked the question in regards to dwarfs and their colour mutations. They'd all be banned. Not only do the dwarfs not have a different scientific name yet, but when breeding these morphs into the the smaller versions, they don't really stay all that small anyway.
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