Boa & Python Breeding together - Page 10

madison.s · 08-21-04, 05:36 PM

BoidKeeper, I have nothing more to say to him or his wife, He should mind his own business, i was not talking to him but i will not say any more to him. I will be a good girl as long as he does not say anything to me.

CDN-Cresties · 08-21-04, 06:18 PM

Interesting post, Ill PM you my email for an update. Thanks.

Goopers5 · 08-22-04, 11:45 AM

I got a couple emaill addresses by PM, I added all of you, thanks! Also, I got an article saying that they don't have to be all female for it to be parthenogenesis, which makes this even more interesting, it was a timber rattlesnake that had babies by parthenogenesis, and the were all male in Boulder Colorado. They plot thickens... I will update as I learn more!

Matt.B · 08-22-04, 12:33 PM

brodie_liz@hotmail.com

Goopers5 · 08-22-04, 12:38 PM

Got ya, thanks!

CamHanna · 08-22-04, 04:00 PM

Please update me, jehanna@cyg.net

How did that timber have males by parthenogenesis? Do snakes have the x/y sex determination as humans? Do you have a link?

Thank You
Cam Hanna

Goopers5 · 08-23-04, 07:32 AM

I don't have a link (they pasted it into a forum) but I will email you with it in a little bit if you like.

CamHanna · 08-23-04, 06:32 PM

Thank You

I went out and found the original, very interesting.

http://home.pcisys.net/~dlblanc/Parthenogenesis.html

Cam

Cruciform · 08-23-04, 07:24 PM

I just tripped over this thread while looking to see what the fuss over hooter was about, and I gotta say it's crazy.

And I don't mean the "miracle" babies, I mean the way people have been so hostile and downright nasty.

Yes, the husbandry methods are definitely improper, incubation method as well, but right off the bad people were attacking instead of offering corrective measures.

Assuming that the boyfriend has had access to the net is just plain stupid. I've been on the net for 10 year, and online for 24 and I can say that at any given time in the past I've been easily able to find people I know that have never looked at a website or read an email. They don't have the interest, inclination, or time.

If he was told 9 years ago when he got the snakes that such and such way was a good way to take care of them, and they've been fine up until now, as a casual pet owner he hasn't done any differently than most.

We are the EXCEPTIONS. We love to look at each others animals and find out about new morphs or species available in the community.

But we're only a very very small percentage of the reptile community. Most people who bring animals home know only what they were told at the pet store.

If this situation upsets you, rather than attack Gooper right off the bat (who had already said they weren't her snakes), offer help on husbandry, care sheet info, etc.

Whether people felt they were a troll or not there are other new people here who will read this and never come back because of the way this thread was handled.

Unless a troll is taking direct action against other users in insults and such, we should treat them no differently than any other user because there are some people who will still learn from the thread.

Gooper, I found your posts very strange and hard to believe, but I hope that you've come away from this with a bit of useful knowledge, even if it's just enough to be able to assist your boyfriend in providing the best living conditions for his animals.

cheers,
Mike

NewLineReptile · 08-23-04, 10:51 PM

Let me know as well on any updates newlinereptile@sympatical.ca

Hope you find the answers to all this and good luck with them.

It is to bad that some people on here think that they have always been perfect with keeping herps. And have to slam other with not as much knowladge.
For the people trashing and name calling You should all look back to when you first started keeping herps.
I think we have all done things wrong a few times.
And that is why we have good sites like sSnakeSs.com to help us learn and fix our mistakes. Not to trash the new people that have made a mistake wich we all do.

Brandon

Leviathan · 08-23-04, 11:34 PM

Let me know what happens. Very interesting. I'm starting my studies next year to be an exotics vet and all this kinda stuff fascinates me. Good luck with the surviving babies. The one with one eye will be just fine if that's the only thing wrong with it.

Alecia

Goopers5 · 08-24-04, 07:36 AM

No problem, NewLine, I added your address. Thanks for the nice (forgiving he he) words I do really appreciate the help that I have gotten here! Leviathan, if you want, post your email or PM it to me and I will add you to the distribution list for an update. No addresses will show when I send an update out, and wont send billions, just important findings

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The one with one eye is the most active actually, and he/she's mine, I claimed it as it was coming out of the egg

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lostwithin · 08-24-04, 08:30 AM

Hi , I pm'd you my adress, just wanted too make sure you got it.
Thanks,
Devon

Goopers5 · 08-24-04, 08:49 AM

lostwithin, I didn't get it, you can try again, or send it to goopers5@yahoo.com

lostwithin · 08-24-04, 09:43 PM

Not a problem I can just post it here. My e-mail address is devoncartier@rogers.com, I'm glad I asked too make sure though. Keep me updated.
Thanks,
Devon