Help!

Marshallarts · 01-08-15, 11:18 AM

Does anyone here know anything about frogs? I have two whites tree frogs, Bubba and Spike. Well recently Bubba has developed some bright green/yellow spots and blotches on his back, and they disappear and reappear quite frequently. I do not want to give him any medication or take him to the vet. I have done research and talked to others who treated their frogs with Baytril and other things, the outcome is always a dead frog it seems. He eats great, breathes great, and moves great. Does anyone have any input on this? image.jpg here is a picture.

Marshallarts · 01-08-15, 11:19 AM

This picture isn't very good, I will try to get a better one later. Also, the spots have since grown bigger and "moved " up onto his lower back.

marvelfreak · 01-09-15, 02:49 AM

Wish i could help you but i don't know anything about frogs. But hopefully some can help. Plus i just bump this for you.

I do know you don't want to put anything on a frog it could kill them. Might need to see a vet.

David VB · 01-09-15, 06:15 AM

Dunno anything bout frogs, but since he's male, it could have something to do with impressing the females in breeding season?

Marshallarts · 01-09-15, 10:12 AM

Well thanks for trying to help

I really would prefer not to go to a vet because frankly their guess is as good as mine and I'm not paying 200$ for them to tell me my frog is dying and theirs nothing I can do about it.

Someone did tell me that it might have to do with his age, he is a maturing male and is "discovering himself " so that might be the cause

SnoopySnake · 01-09-15, 10:18 AM

I would join a frog forum and ask there

Zoo Nanny · 01-09-15, 10:38 AM

A good vet will be able to do a scraping of the effected area to determine if it's a fungal infection. Fungal infections are now being treated in amphibians with positive outcomes.
There is some good info in this article. 326 Zoological Medicine 2008, Spring and Fall 2008 - Tufts OpenCourseWare

SoPhilly · 01-09-15, 11:07 AM

I used to keep whites tree frogs about 10 years ago - that looks like it could be a fungal infection to me... can you get another pic? If it is, you really have to get him to an exotics specializing vet - he doesn't necessarily need Baytril, but he may need an antifungal bath solution. Two of my white's had light greenish yellowish spots like that - i took them to a good herp vet an hour and a half away and we did an antifungal bath (this was too long ago for me to remember what the medication was) for both of them. One didn't make it, the other was cured and lived for years. Do you have a decent exotics vet around? I'd also quarantine until you figure out what's going on. Hope your guy gets better!

Marshallarts · 01-09-15, 12:38 PM

Exactly, one of your frogs didn't make it. The stress of taking a frog to a vet is enough to kill it, I'm not risking that. Frogs almost always die anyways no matter what treatment you give them when they are sick. The only exotics vet around charges 200$ for an exam, and 100$ for a fecal test. I can't afford that. And another thing, if my frog is sick, I'm not going to give it all these treatments that might cause it harm, pain, or discomfort, I'm sure the frog would prefer to die.

I'm not sure how this could possibly be a bacterial or fungus infection, I just cleaned the cage out, the water get changes everyday, the cage is extremely clean.

Zoo Nanny · 01-09-15, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Marshallarts

The stress of taking a frog to a vet is enough to kill it, I'm not risking that. Frogs almost always die anyways no matter what treatment you give them when they are sick.

This is very inaccurate information that you have gotten. Fungal infections if treated early are curable. Letting the animal continue to be sick and die is not right.
Prime example here. Animals in the wild specifically Panama are being trapped and treated for this fungal infection in hopes of saving the population.
Chytrid Fungus
Another article
Chytrid Fungus and Amphibian Declines - Gates Of The Arctic National Park & Preserve (U.S. National Park Service)

Marshallarts · 01-09-15, 01:14 PM

I don't even know how many stories I've read on forums where they treat it and it dies.

Marshallarts · 01-09-15, 01:15 PM

Another really weird thing happening to bubba with these spots is they will disappear and reappear in different places and sizes.

Zoo Nanny · 01-09-15, 05:48 PM

The problem is, is that you are not wiling to even give him a chance to get well if he is sick. Everything is going to die at some point why speed it up? I live by one rule, that is I only have the pets that I can afford to care for. This includes veterinary care. It may not be within my budget at the time but there is normally a way to balance it out.

Cmwells90 · 01-09-15, 05:58 PM

I've kept frogs in the past but I've never expirence a fungal infection. I would still recommend taking it to a vet, however this has already been shot down twice by you, so I can't think of another answer. I don't think we'll have an answer for you, we can only tell you what we've seen and what we'd do, and that's be offered.

Evanthomas · 01-09-15, 06:01 PM

it may be a parasite, i believe my friend had a frog like that with similar symptoms. she brought him to the vet and was given discounted treatment because the vet was honest and said he didn't really know what to do. the vet gave him something, i can't remember what but she said the worms came through the skin and she even had one in a little glass like perfume sample bottle it was creepy. the frog did live for at least a year after the treatment i believe, although i think it did come back.