Feeding advice for yellow rat - Page 4

poomwah · 03-06-14, 06:12 PM

so that's an absolute rule? a properly set up snake eats when offered. PERIOD?

Terranaut · 03-06-14, 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by poomwah

so that's an absolute rule? a properly set up snake eats when offered. PERIOD?

Maybe when putting words in peoples mouths you should put your own advice in there so you can here what you want to.

Mikoh4792 · 03-06-14, 06:19 PM

I will often feed a snake the day it arrives, but I try to refrain from handling unless I need to(change dirtied newspaper substrate).

This is just an assumption.... but I'm guessing if you handle a new snake and cause it to "flee" there is a higher risk of it refusing a meal.

poomwah · 03-06-14, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Mikoh4792

I will often feed a snake the day it arrives, but I try to refrain from handling unless I need to(change dirtied newspaper substrate).

This is just an assumption.... but I'm guessing if you handle a new snake and cause it to "flee" there is a higher risk of it refusing a meal.

that sounds reasonable. I was just going by how may people say leave a snake alone for a week before offering it food

poomwah · 03-06-14, 06:21 PM

how am I putting words in anyone's mouth. I asked if it was an absolute rule and quoted what he said so he knew what part I was talking about.
His words "a properly set up snake eats when offered"
I'm asking if that's an absolute rule.

**Aaron_S** · 03-06-14, 06:23 PM

A general rule in my life is that there is no absolute rule.

However, a properly set up and healthy snake should be eating, no questions asked.

For perspective, I have done this with dozens and dozens of snakes. Wild caughts and captives. As Mikoh, I have no problem attempting to feed in the same day they arrive. Nothing says "settled in and stress free" like an eating snake.

poomwah · 03-06-14, 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Aaron_S

A general rule in my life is that there is no absolute rule.

However, a properly set up and healthy snake should be eating, no questions asked.

For perspective, I have done this with dozens and dozens of snakes. Wild caughts and captives. As Mikoh, I have no problem attempting to feed in the same day they arrive. Nothing says "settled in and stress free" like an eating snake.

Well put, and I totally agree. Generally, a properly setup snake will eat when offered. But more specifically it was not a settling in or a stress related issue or a setup issue, it was a prey issue. That should be obvious now.
Not to mention, since a properly set up snake will eat when offered, does that not mean that my setup is proper?

**Aaron_S** · 03-06-14, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by poomwah

Well put, and I totally agree. Generally, a properly setup snake will eat when offered. But more specifically it was not a settling in or a stress related issue or a setup issue, it was a prey issue. That should be obvious now.
Not to mention, since a properly set up snake will eat when offered, does that not mean that my setup is proper?

I never said it was improper just that it was stressed.

Secondly, I don't really ever have 'prey issues" with snakes. Even wild caughts. Only a handful of species don't readily eat mice. Again, I have had the luck of working in the industry as a teen and I dealt with lots of various species.

Third, I do not believe this to be a wild caught. Why? I read the fauna thread. The person you bought it from is apparently a known breeder and I doubt he'd catch a snake JUST to flip. Sounds silly in my book.

The reason I don't have "prey" issues it's taking the accountability of the error being on the keeper. You have not ONCE admitted to the fact that it might just be you providing the problem. Not once. It was always the snake's fault in some manner.I find this to be a bad trait in keeper's. It's called arrogance.
It's asinine to believe that a snake, that's been around forever to not know how to eat.It isn't like they eat one prey item in the wild. It's an animal bred to eat when the opportunity arises. Why would it not if everything is correct? Again. Common sense.

poomwah · 03-06-14, 06:24 PM

and terra, you can be as childish as you want with your pictures, I got the snake to eat didn't I? Yup, you're right, I don't know ANYTHING.

Mikoh4792 · 03-06-14, 06:33 PM

poomwah · 03-06-14, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Mikoh4792

I'll be nice if Yoko will
just because he's mad I'm right doesn't mean he has to drag Gene Wilder into this :P

poomwah · 03-06-14, 06:39 PM

and just for the record, although I could appreciate their music, I was never much of a fan for the Beatles as a whole, but always loved John Lennons part in it

Terranaut · 03-06-14, 06:41 PM

What ...are you 10 yrs old? Please show us a nice lump in this small snake. Post it.. I'm mad because you came here asking our advice and then told us we were pushy and not listening when we did.
Like I said ...good luck with your goat.

poomwah · 03-06-14, 06:45 PM

you were pushy, you wouldn't acknowledge that the fact that the snake might be wild caught was a valid reason to suspect that the issue might be prey related.
You couldn't accept that for some reason. I verified my temps were right, verified I had plenty of hides.
Tried to tell you the snake was acting hungry and looking for food.
The ONLY possibility you would accept is that the set up was wrong. You would give no leeway toward any other possibility.
Then , when you are wrong, you accuse me of lying and post pictures trying to make fun of my knowledge.
Take it easy Yoko, it will be ok

Mikoh4792 · 03-06-14, 06:47 PM

I know you've already solved the problem of getting your snake to eat, but could you post pics of the enclosure anyways? I'm just curious of how it looks.