How big should a 17 month old yellow rat snake be? - Page 5

Sharlynn93 · 03-05-14, 09:21 AM

if you get her feeding regularly, up the size accordingly, etc, she will get bigger quite fast at that age...no need to worry about them "needing" handled to keep them docile...and if you want to handle her, put your hand in daily and let her get used to you...eventually she will crawl into your hand...all mine do...I have bad issues with my hands as well...chronic severe tendonitis, arthritis, etc...I have days I can barely wash my own hair...but I still manage...they will not get aggressive from not handling, as long as they acclimate to your presence they are fine...

poomwah · 03-05-14, 09:30 AM

that is good news that the snake should be ok without the handling. But what seems to be ignored is that I shouldn't have to wait.
If the snake was what it should have been, I wouldn't have to.

Sharlynn93 · 03-05-14, 09:35 AM

but what we are getting at, is all snakes grow at a different rate...she may just be on the lower end...as for her beauty, she will definitely change as she matures...all of my pictures of mine look a lot better than they do in normal room lighting...but I still think they are gorgeous...I think you will be very pleased with her if you decide to keep her...just don't hold your feelings of "animosity" towards her...she deserves the best, just like any other snake...mine get prettier and prettier with every shed...its a wonderful process to watch!

Sharlynn93 · 03-05-14, 09:39 AM

i think you are really hung up on the size issue...yes, she is relatively small...but not abnormally small...give her time...i bet you will be very surprised at her growth once she starts eating and moves up in prey sizes....

poomwah · 03-05-14, 09:45 AM

sharlynn, one thing I can totally guarantee you, no matter how disgusted I am about this whole situation, I will NEVER allow the snake to suffer as a result.
I totally understand what you are getting at, that all snakes grow at a different rate. I agree. The issue is about her possibly being on the lower end. That is not the case. The breeder only fed her every 7 to 10 days, and never raised her prey size . The reason she's so small is because he intentionally raised her to be small. He even specifically told me the other day that she is normal size for his colony.
That's the point I'm trying to make, that she's not on the low end or that she's a slow grower or anything of that nature, that the breeder intentionally raised her to be the size she is now.
I'm sure she will get prettier, most snakes do. I can tell you that the white nose is always going to drive me nuts though, I hate the way some yellows have that, I was specifically looking for one that didn't.
So, I can say I'll never be totally happy with her, but while she is with me she will get the best care I can possibly give her, just like all our others, and when I do find her another home , I will be EXTREMELY particular about where she goes.

Will0W783 · 03-05-14, 10:43 AM

I'm not arguing or debating your concerns, poomwah, but the picture you have posted shows the overlaid tub the small ratsnake is in as being smaller than the other tub. The edges of the bottoms don't line up.

Were both snakes photographed in the same tub? If not, it would substantiate your claims more to have each snake photographed separately in the same tub. Post the two pictures side-by-side. We can then see how much room each animal takes up in the tub. The way you posted it looks off.

**EL Ziggy** · 03-05-14, 11:05 AM

Poom- I guess my point is it doesn't matter what anyone thinks or says about the size of the snake. You can't always change other peoples minds or opinions, and they're entitled to those opinions just like you're entitled to yours. The bottom line is the snake is in your possession now and the only way the it's is going to get larger at this point is by eating. All the rest is water under the bridge. We can't change the past so onward we go my friend.

poomwah · 03-05-14, 11:22 AM

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Poom- I guess my point is it doesn't matter what anyone thinks or says about the size of the snake. You can't always change other peoples minds or opinions, and they're entitled to those opinions just like you're entitled to yours. The bottom line is the snake is in your possession now and the only way the it's is going to get larger at this point is by eating. All the rest is water under the bridge. We can't change the past so onward we go my friend.

I'm sorry Zig, I know the point you are making. I'm sorry it took me so long to listen. You've been the voice of reason in this thread for quite a while now.
I'm trying brother, I really am.

poomwah · 03-05-14, 11:21 AM

I can understand the confusion Willow. It's the same tub, when I took the pic of the yellow, I had the camera closer, so not all of the tub was in the pic. When I took the pic of george I had to move the camera back. The way I made it in scale was by using the frosted circles on the floor of the tub. I made the pictures so the circles were the same distance apart and the same size.
I can see how it looks off though.
How about this one

**EL Ziggy** · 03-05-14, 11:31 AM

She's not very big but she's a really pretty snake Poom. If I had the room and you lived closer I'd take her off your hands

. My girlfriend just gave me $500 to go shopping with one condition, I can't bring home any new animals. Sheesh!

sharthun · 03-05-14, 11:33 AM

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She's not very big but she's a really pretty snake Poom. If I had the room and you lived closer I'd take her off your hands

. My girlfriend just gave me $500 to go shopping with one condition, I can't bring home any new animals. Sheesh!

$500 will cover the cost of 2 new T10's! hehe

**EL Ziggy** · 03-05-14, 11:41 AM

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$500 will cover the cost of 2 new T10's! hehe

Don't think I haven't thought about that. She wants me to buy a new suit or more clothes. I could use some new threads.

poomwah · 03-05-14, 11:46 AM

new suit and ONE T10?

sharthun · 03-05-14, 12:02 PM

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new suit and ONE T10?

Now that sounds more logical! hehe

Will0W783 · 03-05-14, 12:21 PM

That picture shows the size differences a lot better poomwah. She is a pretty snake, but it's really subjective whether you are happy or not. I'm sorry that you had a bad experience; I hope that the snake thrives now with more frequent meals and care.