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11-14-13, 04:24 PM
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Re: Thinking of using some harvested branches.
63C for 30 minutes, is the accepted pasteurization method for both the UK and US governments
2 other methods exist, 72C for 15 seconds, 138C for 2 seconds, neither is suitable for logs, soil or an other medium which cannot be liquefied.
I suggest you look it up on a scientific or government website, rather than a random gardening website from google - as I said, higher temperatures can be used, but you run the serious risk of damaging the organic compounds.
and btw I made no claim to superiority, people choose to take offense simply because I have a method they disagree with and am able to back up that method with good information, people dont like being told that their are good reasons for something they disagree with. well, then whats the point of them being involved in a discussion if they think like that? we shouldnt do things simply because we think we should do them, they should be thought out.
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11-14-13, 04:42 PM
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Re: Thinking of using some harvested branches.
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Originally Posted by formica
63C for 30 minutes, is the accepted pasteurization method for both the UK and US governments
2 other methods exist, 72C for 15 seconds, 138C for 2 seconds, neither is suitable for logs, soil or an other medium which cannot be liquefied.
I suggest you look it up on a scientific or government website, rather than a random gardening website from google - as I said, higher temperatures can be used, but you run the serious risk of damaging the organic compounds.
and btw I made no claim to superiority, people choose to take offense simply because I have a method they disagree with and am able to back up that method with good information, people dont like being told that their are good reasons for something they disagree with. well, then whats the point of them being involved in a discussion if they think like that? we shouldnt do things simply because we think we should do them, they should be thought out.
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Are you done crying about things?
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11-14-13, 04:55 PM
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Re: Thinking of using some harvested branches.
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Originally Posted by formica
63C for 30 minutes, is the accepted pasteurization method for both the UK and US governments
2 other methods exist, 72C for 15 seconds, 138C for 2 seconds, neither is suitable for logs, soil or an other medium which cannot be liquefied.
I suggest you look it up on a scientific or government website, rather than a random gardening website from google - as I said, higher temperatures can be used, but you run the serious risk of damaging the organic compounds.
and btw I made no claim to superiority, people choose to take offense simply because I have a method they disagree with and am able to back up that method with good information, people dont like being told that their are good reasons for something they disagree with. well, then whats the point of them being involved in a discussion if they think like that? we shouldnt do things simply because we think we should do them, they should be thought out.
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If my sources aren't good enough let's see yours
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11-14-13, 04:42 PM
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Re: Thinking of using some harvested branches.
Formica no hard feelings against you but marvel is right. To say that it's a waste of time is no excuse to not back up your arguments. Might as well not argue at all.... because I've seen other people here such as Lady_bug take the time to bring evidence into her arguments, why shouldn't you? It shows respect to the person you are debating.
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11-14-13, 05:10 PM
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Re: Thinking of using some harvested branches.
This is getting comical. Although I do like the enclosures he makes and his threads on the builds are pretty decent he is still so bullheaded he can't even see it is all him and not us
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11-14-13, 05:14 PM
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Re: Thinking of using some harvested branches.
why dont you look it up for yourself? even if I where to provide links, I would still get abuse and nonsense, so dont expect me to waste my time looking for things that you cant be bothered to find out for yourself. its all there on the internet for you to find, if you can be bothered.
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11-14-13, 05:23 PM
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Re: Thinking of using some harvested branches.
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Originally Posted by formica
why dont you look it up for yourself? even if I where to provide links, I would still get abuse and nonsense, so dont expect me to waste my time looking for things that you cant be bothered to find out for yourself. its all there on the internet for you to find, if you can be bothered.
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So YOU make claims, swear that they're true then I find sources to say you're wrong then you tell me that my sources aren't good enough and so you want ME to find more sources to validate YOUR info.
Ridiculous.
And I highly doubt nongovernmental organizations have stricter rules on sterilization than actual government.
You are incapable of any kind of contribution.
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11-14-13, 05:26 PM
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Re: Thinking of using some harvested branches.
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Originally Posted by formica
why dont you look it up for yourself? even if I where to provide links, I would still get abuse and nonsense, so dont expect me to waste my time looking for things that you cant be bothered to find out for yourself. its all there on the internet for you to find, if you can be bothered.
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I think your flat out lying about people making negative comments about this site and some of the people. That why you would even tell us the site so we could look it up. If i am wrong prove it and if your right will change my avatar and title to a jackass.
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11-14-13, 05:18 PM
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Morelia Enjoyus Maximus
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Re: Thinking of using some harvested branches.
Well other members have had the respect to share their opinions akong side proof or evidence to show why they have that opinion. You couldn't be bothered? Or can't find it?
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11-14-13, 05:28 PM
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Re: Thinking of using some harvested branches.
look up Pasteurization, then decide for yourself whether I am making it up. I aint gona waste my time trying to educate you, educate yourselves. your conjecture is not doing anyone any favours.
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11-14-13, 05:29 PM
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Re: Thinking of using some harvested branches.
Now this cluster fudge shall be laid to rest......
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