Night Nile update

[infernalis]

I just merged the threads together,,,

[Hannibalcanibal]

Originally Posted by infernalis

I just merged the threads together,,,

Thanks!

[Pirarucu]

Gag. A few things:

"I think it's going to work perfect for these...It's a lot of room"
Nope. Strike one.

"80 degrees with a hotspot that can be over 100 degrees"
Much hotter. Strike two.

"With these guys being super aggressive, I don't know what I'm going to do when they get five or six feet long"
Maybe that's something we should have thought about before buying the large, aggressive animals you don't know how to care for, hmm? Strike three.

"We ended up with a male and two females, which means we're going to get some babies really soon."
Firstly, and I might be mistaken here, but didn't he start with five or something like that? Hmm...
Yes, you might get babies soon, maybe two or three survivors if you're lucky. If you're really lucky they'll be females, to replace the adults when they die from reproductive issues...

[monitorlizard]

Originally Posted by Pirarucu

Gag. A few things:

"I think it's going to work perfect for these...It's a lot of room"
Nope. Strike one.

"80 degrees with a hotspot that can be over 100 degrees"
Much hotter. Strike two.

"With these guys being super aggressive, I don't know what I'm going to do when they get five or six feet long"
Maybe that's something we should have thought about before buying the large, aggressive animals you don't know how to care for, hmm? Strike three.

"We ended up with a male and two females, which means we're going to get some babies really soon."
Firstly, and I might be mistaken here, but didn't he start with five or something like that? Hmm...
Yes, you might get babies soon, maybe two or three survivors if you're lucky. If you're really lucky they'll be females, to replace the adults when they die from reproductive issues...

-I think I remember seeing him say on Facebook that the basking spot was 120f.
-He only had three

[Pirarucu]

Originally Posted by monitorlizard

-I think I remember seeing him say on Facebook that the basking spot was 120f.
-He only had three

Still not hot enough, or large enough.
Ah, my bad. I was just guessing based on the first video I remember of them, I just remember seeing a small pile of them but not hearing a number.

[Sublimeballs]

I've never seen someone handle a varanid so wrong, of course he can bite you when your hand is in the middle of his stomach he's got a foot long neck. He's lucky he didn't end up with a big gash and tendon damage. I've seen much worse from a varanus indicus about half that size.

[Akuma223]

I'm going to post this and hope it maybe gets somewhere, tell me what you think.

"Hey Brian I am a big fan of what you do and love your passion for your work, But your husbandry for your Night Niles is way off. A lot of people look up to you, and I think its extremely important that people see the proper way to care for these animals. Its really important to me that people improve their husbandry so these animals can live the absolute best lives they can."

Has anyone tried to contact him? If it bugs people so much contact him and try to change things.

[Pirarucu]

I shot him an email a long time ago, no response. I'm positive he's seen these threads. He reads forums, and past threads about his monitor husbandry got a fair bit of publicity on The Reptile Report.
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[Terranaut]

It took him almost 2 years before his liver function returned to normal and 9 months to get his body fat back to the same as test start.

[Aaron_S]

Originally Posted by Terranaut

It took him almost 2 years before his liver function returned to normal and 9 months to get his body fat back to the same as test start.

By no means am I saying that Mcdonalds is healthy but that experiment was so lopsided.

To my knowledge, he and his girlfriend lived a very healthy lifestyle prior to this. He exercised and ate I believe a vegetarian or vegan diet so when he started this diet with NO exercise whatsoever I think it skewed the results a bit.

Again, I'm not saying this type of diet is any way good for anyone but I think his results aren't necessarily the normal that would occur if you did it just during everyday living.

Besides, who can eat that poop for a month straight?! Fast food should never be consumed that frequently.

[Terranaut]

Originally Posted by Aaron_S

By no means am I saying that Mcdonalds is healthy but that experiment was so lopsided.

To my knowledge, he and his girlfriend lived a very healthy lifestyle prior to this. He exercised and ate I believe a vegetarian or vegan diet so when he started this diet with NO exercise whatsoever I think it skewed the results a bit.

Again, I'm not saying this type of diet is any way good for anyone but I think his results aren't necessarily the normal that would occur if you did it just during everyday living.

Besides, who can eat that poop for a month straight?! Fast food should never be consumed that frequently.

Oh yeah. They even discuss that in the movie for a second or two. What shocked me the most was the liver function issues. The get fat was obviously going to happen but I did not expect to hear immediate health issues from such a short experiment.

[Aaron_S]

Originally Posted by Terranaut

Oh yeah. They even discuss that in the movie for a second or two. What shocked me the most was the liver function issues. The get fat was obviously going to happen but I did not expect to hear immediate health issues from such a short experiment.

Yeah I'll agree that was surprising. Incredible how fast it compounded his health.

[formica]

lol @ the censorship of GMO comments and links.

[jhinton6932]

anyway best of luck to him, hope he achieves his goals but not at the animals expense

[slowhite03]

Watch the fat head documentary. Get more than one source before you become an expert. Getting back to the original topic, I agree that some of his practices aren't the best but he does have a pretty successful buisness with a ton of happy customers. He must know what he's doing.