I need help! snake vs mouse - Page 2

ErikBush97 · 10-04-13, 05:58 AM

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Originally Posted by MH4C

Also, don't blame yourself on gettingsent into snakes. Hopefully she will listen at some point and things will change for the better and otherwise refer her to the forum in case of any real problems, although she probably won't last long here

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I have... she won't join any forums, either o.o
I sent sent her a ton of graphic snake pictures. I doubt half of them are from mice, but she doesn't need to know that lol Hopefully it'll make her stay away from live. I was able to first d a picture on Google of a mouse biting the crap out of a snake that appeared to be dead. Seems promising. It's 5:00 AM here (just got off work), so I doubt she's awake, but hopefully she'll get those pictures and buy frozen.

Awaiting Abyss · 10-04-13, 04:10 PM

Its not only cruel for the snake, but its cruel for the mouse. In the wild they have the chance to escape. Can you imagine what its like for that mouse to be put in a bin with a snake? It knows there is nowhere to run or hide; its last hope is to fight for its life.

**Aaron_S** · 10-04-13, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Awaiting Abyss

Its not only cruel for the snake, but its cruel for the mouse. In the wild they have the chance to escape. Can you imagine what its like for that mouse to be put in a bin with a snake? It knows there is nowhere to run or hide; its last hope is to fight for its life.

You're far off.

I find mice and rats go up and sniff the snake. Sometimes even the face and then they get eaten. These prey items are born and raised in captivity for generations. They don't know what a predator is or to be afraid of anything.

Kera · 10-04-13, 04:24 PM

You mentioned the teeth pulling with rats. My boyfriend insists that you have to do this with feeding live and that I should start feeding my IJ live because it's healthier. Sometimes I think he's a bit off with his snake knowledge...is he right or no?

Mikoh4792 · 10-04-13, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Kera

You mentioned the teeth pulling with rats. My boyfriend insists that you have to do this with feeding live and that I should start feeding my IJ live because it's healthier. Sometimes I think he's a bit off with his snake knowledge...is he right or no?

How can you even do that without the rats squirming and going crazy. Isn't there a lot of bleeding when you snap the rats teeth out of its mouth?

Kera · 10-04-13, 04:28 PM

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How can you even do that without the rats squirming and going crazy. Isn't there a lot of bleeding when you snap the rats teeth out of its mouth?

exactly what I was thinking. He just always likes to be right, even if he knows I'm right.

Starbuck · 10-04-13, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Mikoh4792

How can you even do that without the rats squirming and going crazy. Isn't there a lot of bleeding when you snap the rats teeth out of its mouth?

exactly :/ :/ :/ :/

i cant even believe i just read that... What an incredibly inhumane and cruel practice. We all have probably been to the dentist, even getting a cavity filled can be excruciating, i cant imagine someone actually breaking off your teeth. The difference isn a) we know what is going on and b) we often have lidocaine, novicaine, etc, to diminish the pain.
. The difference between humans and rodents is that their teeth are much more firmly rooted in their skulls

incredibly painful, i'm still in shock

we dont need to make any special provisions for our snakes, if you dont want your snake to get bit, dont feed live. bottom line: snakes have BEEN eating live animals since before homo sapiens even showed up, we dont need to do them any favors :P

MDT · 10-04-13, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Kera

You mentioned the teeth pulling with rats. My boyfriend insists that you have to do this with feeding live and that I should start feeding my IJ live because it's healthier. Sometimes I think he's a bit off with his snake knowledge...is he right or no?

....that's a "no"
He is incorrect on both accounts

Kera · 10-04-13, 04:29 PM

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....that's a "no"
He is incorrect on both accounts

thanks. he thinks he knows everything. May I say, a know-it-all. ;P

Mikoh4792 · 10-04-13, 04:32 PM

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thanks. he thinks he knows everything. May I say, a know-it-all. ;P

Break up with him and get a boyfriend who knows what he's doing. Lol just kidding. But pulling teeth is a little over the top in my opinion. Why not just feed prekilled in that case.

Kera · 10-04-13, 04:35 PM

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Break up with him and get a boyfriend who knows what he's doing. Lol just kidding. But pulling teeth is a little over the top in my opinion. Why not just feed prekilled in that case.

I was planning on doing that anyway.

(feeding f/t. Not breaking up with him.

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**Aaron_S** · 10-04-13, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Kera

You mentioned the teeth pulling with rats. My boyfriend insists that you have to do this with feeding live and that I should start feeding my IJ live because it's healthier. Sometimes I think he's a bit off with his snake knowledge...is he right or no?

Do not listen to him. He's an idiot.

shaunyboy · 10-10-13, 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Kera

You mentioned the teeth pulling with rats. My boyfriend insists that you have to do this with feeding live and that I should start feeding my IJ live because it's healthier. Sometimes I think he's a bit off with his snake knowledge...is he right or no?

your boyfriend talking out his arse.....

stick to feeding your Irian frozen thawed mate

cheers shaun

**Pareeeee** · 10-10-13, 07:09 AM

@Aaron
My Rosy Boa only eats live. He ate f/t once, but completely refuses to do so again.

Every time I bring a feeder mouse home and put it in the feeding bin with the snake, it definitely knows instinctively that the snake is a predator. Even before the snake strikes, the mouse goes up to it, sniffs it, then immediately runs into the corner rattling its tail (not sure what that means). The mouse then usually sits there frozen and terrified. If the snake moves, the mouse flips right the heck out.

I have rarely seen a mouse fight back, however. Only when Boaz has attacked and started constricting does the mouse try to bite, but by then it's usually too weak to do so.