Perentie babies!!!

infernalis · 01-21-13, 02:05 AM

Thanks for scouring the net for us Robyn and staff....

Perentie Monitors- U.S. Captive Bred Babies! | The Reptile Report

This is a must see video for Perentie fans.

Zoo Nanny · 01-21-13, 05:02 AM

Looks like the only place to see them here in the US is in Dallas. I wonder why they are the only zoo that has them. Are they really difficult to breed in captivity?

BarelyBreathing · 01-21-13, 10:30 AM

I saw those. I'm insanely jealous. What an accomplishment!

infernalis · 01-21-13, 10:58 AM

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Looks like the only place to see them here in the US is in Dallas. I wonder why they are the only zoo that has them. Are they really difficult to breed in captivity?

I can't say since I never tried it.

But I can pretty well bet I know who to ask for advice...

Sadly, there is a person who did have some and try, but his stubborn refusal to accept what biologists have to offer, I believe his females went on to that great big gig in the sky with his Lace monitor girls.

On the other side of that coin, it may be for the best, since I could never in good conscience hold these majestic creatures captive, the amount of room they would need to function as nature intended would overwhelm most anyone.

crocdoc · 01-21-13, 06:40 PM

They're not difficult to breed, but you do need a pair to start with (

), space and good nesting sites.

The parents of those babies were bred by a facility at which I used to work and, as I was involved in the process, were incubated, hatched and raised for the first while here in my home. I have been corresponding with the person in charge of the perenties at Black Hills regarding breeding them over there and am glad he succeeded. I hope they remain within AZA facilities.

infernalis · 01-21-13, 08:08 PM

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. I hope they remain within AZA facilities.

Me too............

Robyn@SYR · 01-21-13, 08:49 PM

This is a tremendous step, very stoked to see it!

Zoo Nanny · 01-22-13, 05:27 AM

If they are being bred in AZA facilities I believe that they are not sold to the public. Each hatchling would be followed by the stud book keeper with placement in zoos that meet specific criteria.

Gregg M · 01-22-13, 07:48 AM

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If they are being bred in AZA facilities I believe that they are not sold to the public. Each hatchling would be followed by the stud book keeper with placement in zoos that meet specific criteria.

Trust me, its only a matter of time before they will be available to the public.

Zoo Nanny · 01-22-13, 10:48 AM

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Trust me, its only a matter of time before they will be available to the public.

Why? Isn't it illegal to export them out of Australia? I honestly doubt that the zoo will sell them to the puplic when other AZA zoos don't currently have them.

infernalis · 01-22-13, 11:21 AM

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Why? Isn't it illegal to export them out of Australia? I honestly doubt that the zoo will sell them to the puplic when other AZA zoos don't currently have them.

Illegal only works for law abiding people.

Zoo Nanny · 01-22-13, 11:30 AM

This is true, hopefully no one is able to smuggle them out.

Pirarucu · 01-22-13, 03:49 PM

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Trust me, its only a matter of time before they will be available to the public.

Agreed. Sooner or later a zoo will leak a few into public hands. I don't have much of a problem with them being in public hands, as they would undoubtedly be very expensive and you would need to know the right people to get your hands on some. I doubt that they would end up as available as something like a Nile or a Water, or at least I certainly hope not. I don't have a problem with Varanids being in private hands so long as measures are set in place to ensure they are properly cared for, and they are captive bred as much as possible.

Gregg M · 01-22-13, 05:12 PM

Animals that are zoo bred always end up in private hands eventually. US zoos do indeed sell and auction off reptiles. It just happend recently with some leucistic hognose snakes that one of the big US zoos had. It happens way more often than many people know. Also, zoos and reptile parks outside of the US that are not part of the AZA constantly unload zoo bred over stock to the public.

Zoo Nanny · 01-22-13, 05:29 PM

If it's an AZA zoo they won't because they would lose their accreditation. There are very strict guidelines they must adhere to. Zoos work far to hard to attain accreditation to put it in jeopardy. Where these are not protected they can sell to other organziations but these facilities are not allowed to sell them via auction and can only sell to facilities that are able to maintain proper housing as dictated by the AZA. But that being said down the road as more become available to non-AZA facilities I do think that they will be popping up for sale in the wrong hands.