17ft Jampea Retic - Page 3

**millertime89** · 12-12-12, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Aaron_S

With that said, one person shouldn't never handle a large snake alone. Not only someone in just the same room but two people should have hands on the animal at all times.

Ever seen pictures of just one person handling a big snake with it on their shoulders? Think about that for a minute...

Lankyrob · 12-12-12, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by millertime89

I just removed this one from my neck after it started to wrap

close but not much to worry about IMO yet

was on his shoulders a moment ago, moved to his head.

shoulders

Jake again, shoulders, he had this girl there for quite some time, more than an hour at least

this was "wrapped" but its the same pied and there was more than 2 ft between the lower portion of the coil and his windpipe. Don't have a better picture.

Remember the concern isnt about strangulation where the snake needs a complete coil around the throat, its about the ability to squeeze pressure points on the sides of the neck and down to the top of the shoulder area.

The only photo of those posted that is "safe" imo is the one on top of the head.

**millertime89** · 12-12-12, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Aaron_S

To have fun in this thread, DC, stop growing facial hair.

Now this is facial hair!

I wish I could grow facial hair like Jake, I can only get the goatee, its patchy everywhere else.

**Aaron_S** · 12-12-12, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by millertime89

I wish I could grow facial hair like Jake, I can only get the goatee, its patchy everywhere else.

We know DC and glad you shaved since you continue showing us pictures.

You're just too white lol

**millertime89** · 12-12-12, 03:02 PM

Shane specifically asked me to share this. He's the one with the silver pied resting her head on the back of his neck.

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Originally Posted by Shane Costello

This was the trip out to Bob Clark facility. This girl was a puppy~! It was awesome to be able to interact with one of the FIRST CBB Sunfires! This girl was produced by Bob Clarks OG WC male Super Sunfire! She was alot of fun to interact with! Sunfire in my opinion is the BEST gene in the Retic world!
These animals need to be respected AND understood! working with them from hatclings pays off! I do my best to promote them in the best light i can.

**millertime89** · 12-12-12, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Aaron_S

We know DC and glad you shaved since you continue showing us pictures.

You're just too white lol

lol, its the Irish. I try and keep it trimmed neatly but I was on the road for about a week straight and let it get away.

**Aaron_S** · 12-12-12, 03:04 PM

I know it's a photo op and glad that's all it is.

In that situation, he has no real control over that animal. It's large and powerful and could do what it wants with him at it's own will.

Awesome rack set up though.

**millertime89** · 12-12-12, 03:13 PM

It's Bob Clark's place, read the quote I just added.

**millertime89** · 12-12-12, 03:15 PM

This is Travis Kubes when I went up to his place in June. I'll upload the pics from my trip last weekend tonight.

Gungirl · 12-12-12, 03:46 PM

I don't care who is doing it.. Placing a large snake around your "shoulders" is stupid. 99% of those pictures the snake is clearly on their necks just not all the way around.

**Aaron_S** · 12-12-12, 03:58 PM

I believe the second picture of Travis is an appropriate way to handle such a large snake. You can clearly see how in control he is of that situation at that time. It's a photo op but for anyone reading this, more handlers is never a bad thing.

**lady_bug87** · 12-12-12, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Gungirl

I don't care who is doing it.. Placing a large snake around your "shoulders" is stupid. 99% of those pictures the snake is clearly on their necks just not all the way around.

See? both are the same to me and that's why I wanted a definition. Kyle with all due respect to you, I was not satisfied with the definition you provided. I was looking for a list of reasons why they're different, not a semantic exercise with pictures that I could not distinguish between one or the other.

It is my belief that regardless if a dozen people are watching one person with a snake it's going to take longer for them to get to you then it will for that snake to twitch and for you to pass out.

3 minutes is all it takes for damage to occur in the brain once oxygen flow stops I would wager it would take them longer then that to get the snake off of your neck. I don't want to turn this into another snake around the neck thread and Wayne or Alessia you may move this post if you want to.

**lady_bug87** · 12-12-12, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Aaron_S

I believe the second picture of Travis is an appropriate way to handle such a large snake. You can clearly see how in control he is of that situation at that time. It's a photo op but for anyone reading this, more handlers is never a bad thing.

Oh that makes more sense thanks

**Aaron_S** · 12-12-12, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by lady_bug87

Oh that makes more sense thanks

You're welcome.

I'm sure glad a ball python guy had to explain the differences of something the giant keepers should know.

**millertime89** · 12-12-12, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by lady_bug87

See? both are the same to me and that's why I wanted a definition. Kyle with all due respect to you, I was not satisfied with the definition you provided. I was looking for a list of reasons why they're different, not a semantic exercise with pictures that I could not distinguish between one or the other.

Sorry, I should have been clearer then. No disrespect taken.

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Originally Posted by lady_bug87

It is my belief that regardless if a dozen people are watching one person with a snake it's going to take longer for them to get to you then it will for that snake to twitch and for you to pass out.

3 minutes is all it takes for damage to occur in the brain once oxygen flow stops I would wager it would take them longer then that to get the snake off of your neck.

I'm well aware of the risks, as are everyone in these pictures holding these animals. The occurance of that though is exceedingly rare, I have never heard a first hand account of it happening. That's not to say we should be taking risks, but the risk is being largely blown out of proportion here.

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Originally Posted by lady_bug87

I don't want to turn this into another snake around the neck thread and Wayne or Alessia you may move this post if you want to.

That's why I asked. We already have one of these threads, and I have stayed out of it because I feel its being blown out of proportion. I shared these pictures to show an exceptional animal that displays an exception to the typical size of Jampea locality retics.