Reptillian Theories - Page 2

Falconeer999 · 11-21-12, 11:10 AM

If anyone has a medical/biology degree, there are probably some insights in here. They didn't teach this stuff in law school so I have no idea what any of it really says.

Reptile Brain Research -- Neurotransmitter.net

MDT · 11-21-12, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Falconeer999

If anyone has a medical/biology degree, there are probably some insights in here. They didn't teach this stuff in law school so I have no idea what any of it really says.

Reptile Brain Research -- Neurotransmitter.net

I went to med school and I still don't know what it says....

That being said, snakes operate on a very basic "emotional" level...."can I eat it/get warm by it/breed with it?" I'm pretty sure there is zero about "wow, I really love my owner".

infernalis · 11-21-12, 11:13 AM

All testing done by actual doctors are intelligence testing. I know of no testing for bonding or love.

However, there is always one exception to every rule, There is a species of lizard in Australia that pair bonds for life with a single partner.

I would love to cite something, and believe me, with Varanids on the higher order of the intelligence scale, there would be something available about "emotions" but I have never heard of it.

marvelfreak · 11-21-12, 04:48 PM

They are cold blooded, unfeeling creatures. They only live to eat, reproduce, and make messes for me to clean up. Just like my first wife. lol

But seriously all i am to my snakes is the person that cleans there cage, waters and feeds them. They don't love me they could care less about me. Anyone could take care of them. If i am handling them and they wrap around me it for heat, or to keep from falling, or maybe protection.

I have had friends over and they will be holding my snakes and certain snakes will climb from them back to me every time. Does this mean they love me? Hell no. It just means they associate me with being safe. They are out and moving around they're people they don't know, so to them i am like a safe hide. Nothing more! They know i won't hurt them and will put them back in their cage where it's safe.

StudentoReptile · 11-21-12, 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by marvelfreak

They are cold blooded, unfeeling creatures. They only live to eat, reproduce, and make messes for me to clean up. Just like my first wife. lol

But seriously all i am to my snakes is the person that cleans there cage, waters and feeds them. They don't love me they could care less about me. Anyone could take care of them. If i am handling them and they wrap around me it for heat, or to keep from falling, or maybe protection.

I have had friends over and they will be holding my snakes and certain snakes will climb from them back to me every time. Does this mean they love me? Hell no. It just means they associate me with being safe. They are out and moving around they're people they don't know, so to them i am like a safe hide. Nothing more! They know i won't hurt them and will put them back in their cage where it's safe.

Ditto. They do not show love or affection in any way. In reality, neither do any reptiles. ANything can be traced back to instinctual behavior.

**Aaron_S** · 11-21-12, 06:35 PM

Anybody have any facts to back the claims?

Gungirl · 11-21-12, 07:43 PM

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Anybody have any facts to back the claims?

Of course not ... what person with any intelligence is going to waste time finding out if snakes "love". The answer is no.. they do not.

**Aaron_S** · 11-21-12, 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Gungirl

Of course not ... what person with any intelligence is going to waste time finding out if snakes "love". The answer is no.. they do not.

I was hoping as a group we could find some information. Wayne said it best that nobody tests for "love" but I have a small lead on some brain activity of reptiles.

That's probably where to look. Not emotion but brain activity.

I am looking for the information so whenever this comes up I can post it so as to have some credit to what I'm saying.

shaunyboy · 11-21-12, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Aaron_S

I was hoping as a group we could find some information. Wayne said it best that nobody tests for "love" but I have a small lead on some brain activity of reptiles.

That's probably where to look. Not emotion but brain activity.

I am looking for the information so whenever this comes up I can post it so as to have some credit to what I'm saying.

Aaron,i would be interested in reading up on snake brain activity,especially when the snakes placed in certain situations...

please feel free to share any information/studies etc you find mate

cheers shaun

jarich · 11-21-12, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Gungirl

Of course not ... what person with any intelligence is going to waste time finding out if snakes "love". The answer is no.. they do not.

If that were even remotely true Kat, we would all still believe the earth was flat. A person of intelligence would not be so sure of something without first having researched it. Hence the original point of this thread...

dinosaurdammit · 11-21-12, 07:13 PM

My snakes love me >:C DONT YOU DARE TELL ME DIFFERENT

Also, I am pretty sure my monitor appreciates me even if it is because when he crawls on me he gets squid. Thats love. Totally

Gungirl · 11-21-12, 07:53 PM

After seeing this thread I did a bit of searching.. I didn't find anything but I would love to read anything you find.

Danimal · 11-21-12, 11:08 PM

Why is this important? Because someone is annoying? I believe the same as most of you, I just don't think it's important enough to give this much thought. If you have to start a concerted effort to track down information, and you don't have any luck... hello.

EmbraceCalamity · 11-21-12, 11:52 PM

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Why is this important? Because someone is annoying? I believe the same as most of you, I just don't think it's important enough to give this much thought. If you have to start a concerted effort to track down information, and you don't have any luck... hello.

1) This is a reptile forum for discussing reptiles. That's what this is.
2) Infernalis put this nicely: http://www.ssnakess.com/forums/788011-post19.html

~Maggot

KORBIN5895 · 11-22-12, 12:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Aaron_S

I was hoping as a group we could find some information. Wayne said it best that nobody tests for "love" but I have a small lead on some brain activity of reptiles.

That's probably where to look. Not emotion but brain activity.

I am looking for the information so whenever this comes up I can post it so as to have some credit to what I'm saying.

BwahaShahahaEhahahahahXhahahaha! Good luck with you being credible.

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Lets do one better to conclusive prove that snakes have emotions.... particularly the emotion of snakes "loving" their keepers.

Let's all take are snakes out into a suitable environment for them to thrive in and set them free...

afterall if you love something then set it free, if it comes back it loves you back... doesn't it?

We can all convene in a month to discuss our findings... we can not prove this without proper experimentation and proper statistical data to back us up?

Who's with me on this?

I'm in. I have three corns I can let go.

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Originally Posted by Danimal

Why is this important? Because someone is annoying? I believe the same as most of you, I just don't think it's important enough to give this much thought. If you have to start a concerted effort to track down information, and you don't have any luck... hello.

This is being discussed because we get all kinds of people coming on her that have snakes that just love them and them alone. Logical people get that that isn't how it works but these people get all upset and angry. So if we can compile some real evidence for those that lack the ability to use logic then we stop being haters and maybe they will gain some understanding.