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04-02-12, 06:40 PM
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I want to go find this guy
Rex vs. Squirrel - YouTube First there is no way This sav caught this poor squirrel and second the way he drags the Lizard and third I cant believe he fed this poor guy this squirrel.. He needs to get reported
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04-02-12, 06:44 PM
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Re: I want to go find this guy
That video got brought up once before.
I can't go through those youtube videos anymore, there are way way too many cases of Savannah Monitor neglect all over the place on there.
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04-02-12, 06:50 PM
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Re: I want to go find this guy
I really am getting tired of us broadcasting animal abuse and sick peoples videos......
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04-02-12, 07:21 PM
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Re: I want to go find this guy
Yes, but if you remember, I made the rule of no embedding, and we all agreed that it was acceptable to post a link, that on can voluntarily click, or chose not to.
Actually, I am rather pleased that through education people can now tell the difference between a "cool monitor video" and a bad monitor video.
Many people would have though a Sav eating a squirrel was cool before coming here and learning otherwise.
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04-02-12, 08:01 PM
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Re: I want to go find this guy
Some things I noticed in the vid.
That is a good sized adult sav. It is actually in very good physical shape. Does not look like the usual super fat sav. It is quite possible that it actually did catch that squirrel. Why does that seem so impossible?
I do not see this vid being anymore cruel than someone showing a monitor eating a dead rat or mouse.
I really do not see a big problem with this vid to be honest. It is obviously not the lizards main diet. It was most likely a one off thing.
Is it a "cool" vid? That depends. If the sav actually did catch the squirrel on its own and ate it, then yeah, I would say its a cool vid. If it was killed prior by the owner, than no, its not a cool vid, but not a particularly bad one neither.
Truth be told, if one of my varanids caught a squirrel and started to eat it, I would record it as well.
I actually have an old vid of my first sav RUNNING after, catching, killing, and eating a 3 foot garter snake it came across in a penned off section in my yard when I lived with my parents.
To the OP, what was wrong with the way the lizard was picked up?
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04-03-12, 07:09 AM
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Re: I want to go find this guy
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Originally Posted by infernalis
Yes, but if you remember, I made the rule of no embedding, and we all agreed that it was acceptable to post a link, that on can voluntarily click, or chose not to.
Actually, I am rather pleased that through education people can now tell the difference between a "cool monitor video" and a bad monitor video.
Many people would have though a Sav eating a squirrel was cool before coming here and learning otherwise.
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I know and I understand.. I was a little hot headed about seeing something off the forum a little while before I posted that and I guess I was more upset than I thought.
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04-03-12, 07:52 AM
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Re: I want to go find this guy
There is no way that lizard caught him.. He barely moved he walked right in and grabbed it
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04-03-12, 08:28 AM
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Re: I want to go find this guy
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Originally Posted by Hail3gh
There is no way that lizard caught him.. He barely moved he walked right in and grabbed it
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I think that was brought up in the previous conversation, the squirrel was either already dead or very sick.
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04-03-12, 03:36 PM
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Re: I want to go find this guy
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Originally Posted by Hail3gh
There is no way that lizard caught him.. He barely moved he walked right in and grabbed it
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When a monitor sees a food item, their instincs kick in. Have you ever seen a varanid actually hunt? It is a sight to be seen, thats for sure. That lizard is very capable of catching and killing a squirrel. There are other factors that could have been at play other than it being already dead or sick.
You think that this lizard is incapable of catching a squirrel. What are you basing this on exactly?
Why would the person filming it lie and why would the others in the vid go with it? It just makes no sense.
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04-03-12, 06:30 PM
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Re: I want to go find this guy
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When a monitor sees a food item, their instincs kick in. Have you ever seen a varanid actually hunt?.
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I have, and it's awesome.
They can snap a spine or crush a skull in a split second. 
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04-04-12, 05:59 AM
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Re: I want to go find this guy
You believe it may have happened I don't. Deal with it
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04-04-12, 06:31 AM
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Re: I want to go find this guy
I myself am fairly new to monitor keeping,so despite what i might express there is more i don't know than know.Nobody usually expresses an opinion saying they are absolutely right,to me someone with more experience like Gregg can bring more experienced based opinion to behaviour we witness.Challenging people to think or look at things a different way should be encouraged.Your response Hail3gh was kinda rude and paranoid
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04-04-12, 04:18 PM
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Re: I want to go find this guy
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You believe it may have happened I don't. Deal with it
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Be a little nicer. I just wanted to know what leads you to believe it is impossible.
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04-04-12, 05:28 PM
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Re: I want to go find this guy
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Originally Posted by Gungirl
I really am getting tired of us broadcasting animal abuse and sick peoples videos......
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It doesn't do any good to ignore it and pretend it doesn't happen. It might do some good to discuss it and hopefully educate peole.
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04-04-12, 05:45 PM
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Re: I want to go find this guy
Thats the good thing about forums I have every right to state my opinion and not care. Everybody on this page feels that if you dont do things their way Your wrong. Well I hate to tell You but You're not always right... I post a video and instantly I get a reply saying how people are sick of these posts. Nah thats not rude, You guys make me laugh at how quick to crap on people you are
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