Monitor enclosure discussion thread - Page 21

Corey209 · 02-23-13, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by DeadlyDesires

sad, stupid places like this shouldn't be allowed to sell these herps.

Funny thing is they special order them.

DeadlyDesires · 02-23-13, 05:34 PM

yup.. its just sad.. when im with my man and we walk in somewhere with savs, he looks at me and says just let it go.. they wont fix the problems.. but i can't help myself..

Corey209 · 02-23-13, 05:37 PM

I warned them of what can happen but I'm not going to complain to them about it. The guy who runs the reptiles doesn't know a whole lot and he does his best. I enjoy talking to him about the herps.

DeadlyDesires · 02-23-13, 05:40 PM

aah, see the place down the road from me thinks they know everything yet they have a bearded dragon in a tank with yellow fungus and they think it wont spread... but not my place really i dont do bd's ... but i took my monitor from them because of how they were housing him, i couldn't stand it.. so i paid waay to much for him just to get him out of there. i'd take the others if i could

Corey209 · 02-23-13, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by DeadlyDesires

aah, see the place down the road from me thinks they know everything yet they have a bearded dragon in a tank with yellow fungus and they think it wont spread... but not my place really i dont do bd's ... but i took my monitor from them because of how they were housing him, i couldn't stand it.. so i paid waay to much for him just to get him out of there. i'd take the others if i could

Well the owners think they know everything which is why I wouldn't go to them about it. Any complaints the store has had have been ignored, personally I enjoy the shop as I have gone there since I was like three but they could step it up.

**Aaron_S** · 02-23-13, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by DeadlyDesires

aah, see the place down the road from me thinks they know everything yet they have a bearded dragon in a tank with yellow fungus and they think it wont spread... but not my place really i dont do bd's ... but i took my monitor from them because of how they were housing him, i couldn't stand it.. so i paid waay to much for him just to get him out of there. i'd take the others if i could

Restrain yourself next time please.

It just allows them to replace it with 5 others.

Last I checked 5 dead over 1 dead is a lot worse.

DeadlyDesires · 02-23-13, 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Aaron_S

Restrain yourself next time please.

It just allows them to replace it with 5 others.

Last I checked 5 dead over 1 dead is a lot worse.

it wasn't just one.. they had like 5 of them (all sizes) in one tiny little 10 gal.. my lizard is around a foot in length.. .he just simply didnt fit.. so i took him... and i would do it all over again.. i have no control over weather the others live or die or who they sell them too.. (they dont keep monitors long) they are always sold, but i can control the outcome of at least one so IMO what i did wasn't a horrible thing to do.. i gave a sav the life it prob wouldn't have if i hadn't came along.

**Aaron_S** · 02-23-13, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by DeadlyDesires

it wasn't just one.. they had like 5 of them (all sizes) in one tiny little 10 gal.. my lizard is around a foot in length.. .he just simply didnt fit.. so i took him... and i would do it all over again.. i have no control over weather the others live or die or who they sell them too.. (they dont keep monitors long) they are always sold, but i can control the outcome of at least one so IMO what i did wasn't a horrible thing to do.. i gave a sav the life it prob wouldn't have if i hadn't came along.

You missed my point so I'll end this here.

*pats your head*

infernalis · 02-23-13, 08:15 PM

Remember Slayer's post Deadly?? Aaron is alluding to the same point.

DeadlyDesires · 02-23-13, 08:22 PM

i already knew what he was saying.. but i was a little offended because he told me not to do it next time, made he seem like he didnt approve of what i did.. well i just simply said that i helped save a monitor so if that is the way i choose to look at it

then yay me!

poison123 · 02-23-13, 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Aaron_S

The point is if NOBODY gives the BAD pet stores money then they can't replace it and will go out of business. Simple economics.

True.......

KORBIN5895 · 02-23-13, 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by DeadlyDesires

no hes not.. hes saying i killed a bunch of other animals simply by saving one.. if that were the case then you can't purchase reptiles anywhere.. there is no reason to let one animal die simply because once it does it will be replaced anyway so IN MY OPINION <<<<<< i dont give a crap what he thinks about what i did.. as far as im concerned he would have died in there and been replaced with another to die. so i just saved one i dont care what kind of stupid negative spin you want to put on the situation..

My local pet store had three savs die in store. Guess what they no longer carry?

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Originally Posted by Corey209

Aaron is a veteran member so his opinion does mean something but it doesn't mean it's right. Whether someone agrees with him or not is up to them but opinions are free to share. By buying a sav from a pet store you did open up more room for another one which will most likely die. Yes he would have died but instead of supporting an already damaged Sav you could have just bought a baby from a reputable breeder that only sells to homes that they will last in. Reptiles aren't dogs or cats, we don't need to take in every animal that's special needs or will end up dying.

First off there are no reputable sav breeders.

Secondly wtf does that last line mean?

Corey209 · 02-23-13, 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by KORBIN5895

My local pet store had three savs die in store. Guess what they no longer carry?

First off there are no reputable sav breeders.

Secondly wtf does that last line mean?

I'm sure there's someone who breeds and makes sure they go to a good home..

I was meaning dogs and cats go into shelters and it's preferred to adopt rather then buy from a breeder who doesn't care where the animals go.

jarich · 02-23-13, 10:55 PM

It's an interesting position to take so indignantly, Aaron; given that you breed one of the few reptiles killed more often than Boscs. Do you know how many of the BPs youve bred are alive still now? What percentage have died from poor care? How responsible are you for their deaths?

Just thought I'd throw a similar wrench in the works for you.

**Aaron_S** · 02-24-13, 10:07 AM

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It's an interesting position to take so indignantly, Aaron; given that you breed one of the few reptiles killed more often than Boscs. Do you know how many of the BPs youve bred are alive still now? What percentage have died from poor care? How responsible are you for their deaths?

Just thought I'd throw a similar wrench in the works for you.

Lots. I talk to most of my customers on a regular basis. They keep me up to date.

I know of only one that has died. Each one of my customers knows how to contact me if they have any trouble.

I am not responsible for any deaths based on the fact that I sell directly to consumers who know what they are doing. I am a breeder. I don't sell pet store stuff usually so most people take care of their animals. Like I said though, if they don't reach out to me then I can't help them and I am NOT responsible for any death.

You can try to twist it around on me because I keep and breed ball pythons but honestly, it has nothing to do with import savannahs and pet stores. I am talking about giving bad pet stores money. I am not a bad pet store who's somehow going to kill each animal I breed or buy.

Try harder next time.