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01-24-12, 03:46 PM
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Re: The one and ONLY python BAN thread
Just FYI It is against the law to spit on the ground in many places... Laws are made and then ignored. Stop getting your panties in a bunch over stuff that isn't going to get enforced.
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01-24-12, 03:49 PM
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Re: The one and ONLY python BAN thread
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Just FYI It is against the law to spit on the ground in many places... Laws are made and then ignored. Stop getting your panties in a bunch over stuff that isn't going to get enforced.
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That's what I was trying to say!
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01-25-12, 02:46 PM
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Re: The one and ONLY python BAN thread
the fear is that its a slippery slope as strutter mentioned.
I have no problem with a ban, or at the very least extremely tight restrictions on the importation of new snakes. I think that should be reserved to the biggest names in the business that have good(ish) ethics about imports such as Harry Wessels, Bob Clark (maybe), NERD, and Prehistoric Pets. It should be allowed for new morphs, and getting new blood into the existing population, and if there's a new world record size captured that a zoo could use for educational purposes. That's it.
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01-25-12, 02:49 PM
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01-25-12, 03:20 PM
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Re: The one and ONLY python BAN thread
Oh no!!!  RI is close to me.
That would suuuuck, then New England would catch on...
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01-25-12, 04:06 PM
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Re: The one and ONLY python BAN thread
Its way too broad, I doubt it'll get passed even if it does manage to hit the floor.
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01-25-12, 05:34 PM
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02-16-12, 07:05 PM
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Re: The one and ONLY python BAN thread
bump, I heard from an acquaintance who recently spoke with USFWS. The ban does not go into effect on March 23rd like a lot of people think. The ban goes into effect 60 days after the snakes are placed on the list of injurious animals, which has not been done yet. I'm trying to stay up to date on everything but there's a lot of info out there. I'll try and keep this thread updated.
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02-16-12, 08:15 PM
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Re: The one and ONLY python BAN thread
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Originally Posted by millertime89
bump, I heard from an acquaintance who recently spoke with USFWS. The ban does not go into effect on March 23rd like a lot of people think. The ban goes into effect 60 days after the snakes are placed on the list of injurious animals, which has not been done yet. I'm trying to stay up to date on everything but there's a lot of info out there. I'll try and keep this thread updated.
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I keep hearing that they've already been placed on that list. But I've also heard they haven't.
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02-17-12, 12:59 AM
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Re: The one and ONLY python BAN thread
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I keep hearing that they've already been placed on that list. But I've also heard they haven't.
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they haven't, but they're going to.
here's the current list
www.fws.gov/fisheries/ans/Current_Listed_IW.pdf
edit: you might also see this one, if you notice the note at the bottom that the "big 9" are under consideration.
http://www.fws.gov/fisheries/ANS/pdf..._Listed_IW.pdf
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02-16-12, 08:58 PM
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Re: The one and ONLY python BAN thread
I will never surrender my Ball! >: \
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02-29-12, 08:14 PM
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Boa Boy Roy
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Re: The one and ONLY python BAN thread
News from USARK: Facebook
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02-29-12, 08:25 PM
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Re: The one and ONLY python BAN thread
As for the enforcement thing, it is true that I am not worried about them coming and taking my snakes from me, whether I had a burm, cornsnake, etc. nobody will know what I have in my home. The problem is for breeders, and I'm willing to fight to help them (slippery slope aside, though that is a very realistic reason)
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03-01-12, 01:29 PM
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Re: The one and ONLY python BAN thread
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03-01-12, 01:34 PM
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Re: The one and ONLY python BAN thread
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So.. did that pass?
If so, I actually (if implemented correctly, which it wont be..) Would agree with that. It would stop a lot of the horrible conditions that reptiles end up in.
Sadly, realistically, its just a way to make money off of people wanting pets, and limits a lot of things and most likely wont have proper regulatory body to ensure everything goes correctly
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