New Burmese Python Owner Seeks Advice... - Page 3

Smilts · 01-28-09, 01:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Sane

get your head out of your rectal region

If you know it all dont post on forums for advice!

Sane · 01-28-09, 03:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Coy

If you know it all dont post on forums for advice!

I obv know alot more than most of you,

There is nothing wrong with posting to make sure that what i know is agreed with. and ive found everything is right that im doing so im good.

I mainly posted on here to make friends with other snake lovers.

Instead i meet nazi's.

Chu'Wuti · 01-27-09, 01:54 PM

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you wont listen to anything that has been said

Anything, Julian? I'm feeling a sarcastic response coming on, but I'll try to restrain myself. Anyway, right after you said that, you contradicted yourself.

Do you really think this person should be trying to start her snake-keeping life with a Burmese Python that she knows almost nothing about?

You're correct that at least I do not have any snakes that large, and I won't ever, because I know I could not handle them safely and am not equipped to take proper care of them. Whatever I get, I want to be sure I can care for it properly and handle it.

I'm beginning to understand Aaron & Mykee better . . .

Sane · 01-28-09, 01:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Chu'Wuti

Anything, Julian? I'm feeling a sarcastic response coming on, but I'll try to restrain myself. Anyway, right after you said that, you contradicted yourself.

Do you really think this person should be trying to start her snake-keeping life with a Burmese Python that she knows almost nothing about?

You're correct that at least I do not have any snakes that large, and I won't ever, because I know I could not handle them safely and am not equipped to take proper care of them. Whatever I get, I want to be sure I can care for it properly and handle it.

I'm beginning to understand Aaron & Mykee better . . .

IM NOT STARTING MY SNAKE KEEPING WITH A FREAKIN BURMESE! IM CONTINUING IT WITH ONE! AND I KNOW MORE ABOUT THEM THEN U PROBABLY DO. god u people dont read u just yap.

why the hell are all you idiots in here that have never even owned a burmese? go away and let the big dogs handle things kiddos.
this part of the forum is NOT for you and you know NOTHING.

Kmef07 · 01-27-09, 02:01 PM

wow this thread has turned really hostile. lol

If she wants to keep the snake it's better to tell her how to care for it than argue against her having it. Ya it will be tough as hell but if she really wants to keep this snake we should try and help her to achieve that. But yes first step is to feed whole prey. If you don't like the fact it has a face then just cut the head off. lol. But in all seriousness you need to feed whole prey. Chu'Wuti is right on in that aspect.

Smilts · 01-27-09, 02:12 PM

I posted a link to what looked to be a good caresheet for them

**Aaron_S** · 01-27-09, 03:53 PM

I will mention one thing in regards to snakes eating chicken. I have seen with my own eyes, a burmese python and two carpet pythons eating thawed chicken thighs that you buy at the grocery store. I only saw it once and I didn't know the history on the animals. I also don't know where they've gone too now but I don't think they would have lived very long had they been kept on that diet.

That being said. Julien, I have kept burmese pythons before. I haven't kept them for years or anything but I have kept a couple from hatchling to about the same size as Sane's. (I rescued one and the other came from someone who couldn't house it) I don't think there's anything in this thread that someone who PROPERLY keeps large boids wouldn't say. A lot of advice I got from mine came from the Bob Clark forums, where the large pythons are kings! Try posting this thread over there and see what response is given.

Smilts · 01-27-09, 04:03 PM

We recently had a Florida based traveling zoo come through our little town. They had a 8 year old 7 foot burmese that they fed thawed chicken thighs. I asked the rather rude picture taking keeper about it and was told that if I knew anything about large snakes I would know that diet was just fine.

PS i hate the chemicals put into fowl period for anything us included

Sane · 01-28-09, 01:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Coy

We recently had a Florida based traveling zoo come through our little town. They had a 8 year old 7 foot burmese that they fed thawed chicken thighs. I asked the rather rude picture taking keeper about it and was told that if I knew anything about large snakes I would know that diet was just fine.

PS i hate the chemicals put into fowl period for anything us included

SEE!

theirs was too small tho. thats wierd. my friends that have fed their snakes chicken THEIR WHOLE SNAKE LIVES are HUGE! one has one that is over 30 ft long. shes amazing. so whatever if u blame it on chicken!

**Aaron_S** · 01-27-09, 04:11 PM

I just don't see it as a means of a longevity thing. 8 years at 7 feet eh? Doesn't sound like it's fine. Maybe we don't know how long it's been on the diet for either. I really dislike the chemicals that are placed into chickens for humans going inside my snakes.

Chu'Wuti · 01-27-09, 04:23 PM

Kmef, thanks for pointing that out.

I apologize; I should have used more smilies and I should have worded things better, as I definitely didn't want to come across as hostile, and especially not to Julian, whom I quite like, though he may not like me so well at this point. Julian, I'm sorry! Truly, I'm not feeling hostile at all. Frustrated, definitely. Like everyone else here, I want that snake--all snakes--to be treated properly. I taught my sons and firmly believe that when we take any animal into our home, we are taking responsibility for that animal's life and well-being. If we aren't willing to provide what it needs for a quality life and well-being, then we should not get it. My personal opinion, of course.

One question we've never asked Sane--Are you feeding your python whole pieces of chicken or whole chicken? That is, is your burmese getting bones and skin as well as chicken? and, Why do you feel the need to cook the meat?

BTW, Aaron, those chemicals given to chickens in chicken farms nowadays aren't any good for humans, either. The reason they are given so many chemicals is to keep them alive in horrible conditions. You might find "The Omnivore's Dilemma" an interesting read; my 19-yo son persuaded me to read it recently, and it makes me want to find other sources of my meats than the local grocery store. Sorry, Sane--I'm sure you think I should go vegetarian. My son and stepson are both vegetarian. However, I'm allergic to legumes, and my dr. has told me to cut down on cheese & dairy, so becoming a vegetarian would be pretty complicated for me.

and Aaron's right--a burm that's only 7 feet long at 8 years hasn't been growing properly. Sounds to me like the traveling zoo "snake keeper" was rude because he didn't want you asking uncomfortable questions, Coy.

citysnakes · 01-27-09, 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Chu'Wuti

he may not like me so well at this point.

I love all!

body_xs_j · 01-28-09, 12:33 AM

I love all to.
Don't feel bad I'm getting a HYBRID CAIMAN, it may grow and bite me or sometime. But who is to know whats going to happen.. Good luck with the snake....

Sane · 01-28-09, 01:39 AM

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Originally Posted by body_xs_j

I love all to.
Don't feel bad I'm getting a HYBRID CAIMAN, it may grow and bite me or sometime. But who is to know whats going to happen.. Good luck with the snake....

thanks

you too!

Sane · 01-28-09, 03:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Chu'Wuti

Kmef, thanks for pointing that out.

I apologize; I should have used more smilies and I should have worded things better, as I definitely didn't want to come across as hostile, and especially not to Julian, whom I quite like, though he may not like me so well at this point. Julian, I'm sorry! Truly, I'm not feeling hostile at all. Frustrated, definitely. Like everyone else here, I want that snake--all snakes--to be treated properly. I taught my sons and firmly believe that when we take any animal into our home, we are taking responsibility for that animal's life and well-being. If we aren't willing to provide what it needs for a quality life and well-being, then we should not get it. My personal opinion, of course.

One question we've never asked Sane--Are you feeding your python whole pieces of chicken or whole chicken? That is, is your burmese getting bones and skin as well as chicken? and, Why do you feel the need to cook the meat?

BTW, Aaron, those chemicals given to chickens in chicken farms nowadays aren't any good for humans, either. The reason they are given so many chemicals is to keep them alive in horrible conditions. You might find "The Omnivore's Dilemma" an interesting read; my 19-yo son persuaded me to read it recently, and it makes me want to find other sources of my meats than the local grocery store. Sorry, Sane--I'm sure you think I should go vegetarian. My son and stepson are both vegetarian. However, I'm allergic to legumes, and my dr. has told me to cut down on cheese & dairy, so becoming a vegetarian would be pretty complicated for me.

and Aaron's right--a burm that's only 7 feet long at 8 years hasn't been growing properly. Sounds to me like the traveling zoo "snake keeper" was rude because he didn't want you asking uncomfortable questions, Coy.

I care for all animals and living things with utmost love. thats how i am.

she is eating whole chickens but i was gonna cook the meat but only cuz several people said to. originally i planned to do it raw but they said the salmonella risk was too high that way.
so i was gonna cook it.
wasnt sure. but again thats what this forum was supposed to be for. advice!
my roomie was gonna handle the parts of the chicken i cant.
and the chickens his pa gave us have no faces.
no heads.

u dont have to have legumes to be vegetarian, and id prefer people to be vegan which means no dairy or cheese, which is also dairy btw. u can get plenty of nutrition without both if u would take the time to look into it.
if u dont want to then u dont but please dont make excuses that are not true.

no animals anymore are too safe for anyone. ur right, they feed them all kinds of crap to live in bad conditions. any vegetarian, vegan or concerned person can read up on that. i have been one since i was 7, and its an important cause to me, so im always up on everything. i wish meat eaters would be too even if they continue to eat meat. being in the know is still important.