Complaints about ssnakess.com

sSNAKESs.com · 03-19-05, 01:47 PM

Well here you go guys. Now you have a thread where you can let it all out. ( within reason )

selacs · 03-19-05, 01:55 PM

We asked for an apology or for someone to be straight with us.

In return you deleted all the posts that might be hurtful, and created this thread instead. Very classy Jeff.

I hope someone starts on on Fauna, they can't delete what's been said over there.

While on as ssnakess.com - you might want to check your pm's, apparently a lot of people have been trying to get a hold of you for a long time.

Ryan

Ryan23 · 03-19-05, 01:57 PM

This would have come in handy before you started deleting and banning left, right and center.

sSNAKESs.com · 03-19-05, 02:03 PM

Actually I am Alien Regalis. Now let me be clear, I am not the owner and I am not Jeff ********. I have banned not one person nor have I removed any moderators. Today is the first time I have really used this name. I was asked to be a moderator here and to help out.

Many of you have valid complaints and you may express them here. I have tried to help out today by doing what I can. I have removed Ryans advertisments as he requested and did a light update to the front page.

selacs · 03-19-05, 02:07 PM

What is going to be done about the money that is owed to people?

Who did all the banning and removing posts that were made?

Why were none of them ever answered to, deleted, and then this thread made?

Who bought ssnakess.com and when did they buy it?

just a start...

sSNAKESs.com · 03-19-05, 02:12 PM

To the best of what I know:

I know of no money owed to anyone. I would like to know what is owed, why its owed.

Who banned anyone I cannot say for sure. I was alerted to the mess here yesterday morning.

ssnakess.com was purchased a few months ago from Iguana Depot I guess. I help moderate a few forums that are ran by them.

selacs · 03-19-05, 02:16 PM

Thank you very much Alien.

Some people paid for advertising they never got. Is there someone they should contact to receive re-imbursment?

Is Iguana Depot a division of Flukers? Who runs Iguana Depot?

Ryan

Son of Creature · 03-19-05, 02:16 PM

Being the previous thread was deleted as being off topic I will repost my comment, whoever the lack of context from that series of posts makes the post less clear, and my post of the neglegence of the previous ownership was deleted as well.

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Does being a member of an internet forum give you the right to demand he spill all his personal private matters to you?

If he is a finacial sponsor with his product advertised on the site then the answer is unequivocally yes, it does, as it pertains to this site. And apparently it matters to a number of other members who do not wish to be associated with Flukers. In fact they could likely sue about the lack of disclosure if they financial restitution isn't made and their adds removed when requested. Like the SCALES Zoo add, which remains on the front page after it was requested to be removed because he did not want his product associated with Flukers, and might have contractual obligations to Midwest, which this site's lack of openness may jeopardise.

It does make it his right!

Edit: there is contractual law and the rights of the paid advertisers which were ignored when Jeff sold the site, there is no denying that. If someone was so inclined this site could be locked up as evidence and shut down over that.

Ryan23 · 03-19-05, 02:20 PM

Can you tell us who has been deleting posts today then? They were deleted literally minutes before you started this thread, I know they weren't deleted by the thread creator as HeatherRose(current or ex-moderator, not too sure) herself asked why they had been removed.

Much of the talk about money being owed was contained in those posts and now they are gone.

marisa · 03-19-05, 02:21 PM

What is going to be done about money owed to members? YES money is owed to one member for SURE and I have heard of others.

Why were posts REMOVED, DELETED and people banned without three warnings? Is the TOS changed now?

Why is the new admin making Jeff and other people look so bad by not handling HIS business? (I am sure some have their own personal grievances with Jeff but I have a big problem with the new admin not taking responsibility for their part, which is a big one)

Why are mods being removed? Matt (hot snake owner) Matt said he didn't ask for it but it was gone.

Why was the name ******************* bleeped out? Common pratice is to simply move posts pointing to another forum into the bad threads catagory and pm that member. Why are those rules not being followed? Since I became a mod, we tell members that queensnakes name is simply bleeped out because they bleeped out ssnakess.com....I guess that's not true now either??? I am confused.

Why didn't the new admin be honest from day one?

And why would you have any answers for us if you ARE NOT THE ADMIN? Alien I have NOTHING against you, but you simply cannot possible tell us all these answers. Yesterday in PUBLIC it was said the admin is back and cleaning up the site. You will have less answers to these questions than I did as a mod.

I am NOT coming down on you at all, in fact the opposite.

You were the only one who tried to help the mods at all, ever. There is no point in trying to fix anything if the website is exactly where it was before. With no administration giving 100% true answers and knowing whats going on. It's pointless. I mean really, already you don't have answers, you don't know about these issues people are bringing up. It's as difficult for you now as it was for the mods before. Pointless.

Marisa

Son of Creature · 03-19-05, 02:23 PM

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I would like to know what is owed, why its owed.

Any advertiser which has not been notified to the change in ownership should be entitled to reimbursement of the portion of advertising left undercontract if they wish to have their ads removed. Additionally any advertisers or persons who have given monies to ssnakesss.com under the pretense of the site being the domain of the previous owner and have not yet recieved services, should be notified, and have their monies returned to them if they do not wish to further persue said services.

Any advertiser or persons to whom this applies should also considder contacting legal council on these matters if they wish to persue them or form a class action suit if the previous and or current ownership does not reply in a timely manner as of this juncture. As this does not apply to mysef, just to personal friends and aquaintances I will not be doing so so please do not contact me.

Gary D.

Edit: this should not be considered legal advice

sSNAKESs.com · 03-19-05, 02:28 PM

Untill the time when the paypal button was switched to iguanadepot a few days ago all money was sent to the original paypal account? This is something I will look into.

Now I will tell what I know of Iguana Depot. I know that its not an actual company but a name. I am told that contrary to popular belief its not actually a division of Fluker Labs *cough* overpriced crap *cough*

HeatherRose · 03-19-05, 02:28 PM

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I know they weren't deleted by the thread creator as HeatherRose(current or ex-moderator, not too sure) herself asked why they had been removed.

I am currently awaiting de-moderatorization. I cannot be a part of something that has people being banned and erased just because.

In retrospect I should probably not have started that thread, but someone would have eventually anyway. I am extremely close friends with a few of the moderators who have left, and so my thread was not meant to get 'back' at anyone in any way.

I know that it is not Alien who is doing this banning/deleting, and as far as I know he doesn't know how to unmod.

Anyway...

sSNAKESs.com · 03-19-05, 02:33 PM

wow..some posts are getting mixed up?

selacs · 03-19-05, 02:35 PM

Alien, this honesty is a breath of fresh air.

You don't know who owns the site or who you are working for?

Who are you being a mod for? Who asked you to become a mod?

What else does Iguanadepot own? Is the owner's name Howard Chan?

Ryan