Serious Questions for you - Page 6

drewlowe · 12-28-04, 02:07 PM

I wish i lived in this utopia that eveyone else is....

Do people not have disagreements, tiffs, arguements (whatever you want to call them) offline with there friends, family members, teachers, coworkers, bosses, whoever. Disagreements are a part of life and your always going to have them no matter who you are or where you are, learn that now. You do work it out with friend or family members, i know i do, it's part of life. The way you deal with them is what's important, not the fact that you are disagreeing with a person or a post.

I'm positive i've gotten into a few "tiffs" here and there, but i learned from them. Some of the best information comes from the "heated" debates. You get to see both sides of the argueements and form your own opinion on where you stand.

I also know that some of my own post that were ment to be informative where somehow manipulated into me being ignorant and rude when they were never even said in that manor, but then agian it's just typed words and you can never see the "tone" that i or others are actually typing them in.

Yep from time to time i've thought about leaving this site for some reason or another, but i still continue to come back. Why some might ask, It's because of all the great info i get and i get to pass on what i've learned to others. My biggest problem isn't answering newbies but when you do give them an answer some of them completly ingore it and continue to ask the same question 2 weeks later, or newbies answering questions and giving a complete BS answer that you know is incorrect. When you decied to answer the question correctly your automaticly attaking that person even if you didn't say a word except that the information they had givin is wrong.

Just as an example I dont' remember who it was or anything like that but someone came on saying i have a skinny leo and it's not eating, I gave my advice and so did others. The advice was completly ignored and a week later there was another post from the same person saying my leos still sick and not eating what do i do. Now tell me how do you not get upset at something like that.

Wow i've done alot of typing for one post, but then again i'm good for that, cause i can't seem to do to many one line posts.

I'm pretty sure some people will see this post and agree with it and others won't that's how people are and i accept that but other seem to think everyone has to think and act exacly like them.

I'm done before i stick my foot in my mouth too far, but all in all i love this site, it's great and i will continue to be here as long as i can still learn about the animals i'm so passionate about.

Jamie

mykee · 12-28-04, 03:08 PM

Jamie, great post. I would have to agree that one of my pet peeves are the new members who ask a few questions to get to know their stuff, and a week later are answering questions like they've been around for decades. It doesn't affect me any, as I can sift out the crap form the "not", but for the even-newer members who come on looking for good information finding the smoke-blowers' answers and taking it as the 'word'. I know when I started out there were more than a few misguiding responses to rather simple questions, and if I didn't have the patience to sort it all out, I would have been terribly confused and frustrated.

JAdkins2451 · 12-28-04, 03:17 PM

I might be wrong, but Iam still new to this site and so far not to many problems with any questions that I have asked, I got good knowledgeable replys. And I have read books and care sheets but alot of those have diffrent answers. So I come here and ask because maybe theres a person on here that only deals with a certin kind of snake and have been doing so succsesfully for many years. And I personaly would take there advice.. But the one thing that I have noticed all the (newbies) are basically students trying to learn and let there pet have the best possible life they can. And SOME of the experianced keepers are like teachers trying to help the students.BUT with all teachers they have there own way of doing things which inturn cause some conflict on who is right and who is wrong. Anyways Overall I have found this a very good fourm and I think that the mods are doing A great job. And For all the people complain about them (lets see you do there job)..

Matt_K · 12-28-04, 03:19 PM

LOL, it's not a tough job

Even Mykee could do it!

Some good ideas being toss'd around here.. Keep them coming everyone!!

mrsogle · 12-28-04, 03:49 PM

Drewlowe (Jamie): I agree 100% with you.

I do have a question though about the "Newbie" column. IF it is read by "newbie" people only (there was a suggestion of it not being on the New Topics list) then how are the "newbies" going to get good advice if the older members never want to take the time to post to newbie questions? I'm not trying to be stupid or start another disagreement, I'm just asking. I know that some posts are redundant and maybe they're trying to get there number of posts count higher, but don't take it out on everyone. Some people have legitamite (sp*) questions.

mykee · 12-28-04, 03:51 PM

mrsogle; I am yet to encounter a newbie question go unanswered in the Forums I visit. Though we mostly 'him and haw' a bout having to answer the SAME question for the 17,000th time, most of us will do so in a timely and knowledgeable manner.

Matt_K · 12-28-04, 03:53 PM

As much as a 'newbie' forum would be nice, I'm just not sure it would fly.. Not only that, but who's going to implement it right now??

We have the FAQ at the top of most of the forums right now, and maybe it's time we start to do the rest of them, but we thought this would have helped cut back the number of duplicate questions, but even that hasn't helped. I hardly think that a new forum is going to help either..

-Matt

marisa · 12-28-04, 03:54 PM

Yes I have to agree there. For all the talk of people not wanting to answer questions, I rarely see ANY post go answered here on the forums.

Marisa

Matt_K · 12-28-04, 03:55 PM

I think you mean un-answered!!

(I'm waiting for my warning from Marisa for mentioning Mykee)

marisa · 12-28-04, 03:57 PM

Both you and Mykee are going to recieve a warning now. You for mentiontion him, and Mykee because he posted again, which means he brought up Mykee.

:P :P

Marisa

Manitoban Herps · 12-28-04, 04:28 PM

LOL!

mykee · 12-28-04, 04:31 PM

Dammit! I didn't think you would catch that one. Oh well, Warning me away..... Hey, come to think of it, I didn't mention that dorks name, IMHO he doesn't deserve any more "airtime". I'll fight this Warning and if need be, you to the death Marisa. I'll even take my fight to MR.Ssnakess if need be. I'l have your job for this! Note: that was HUMOUR. (I don't hit girls, I get other girls to hit them for me).

Matt_K · 12-28-04, 04:35 PM

LMAO!!! I dunno, Either way, im putting my money on Marisa!!

Tim_Cranwill · 12-28-04, 04:47 PM

Jamie, great post!

Now here’s MY two cents!

Too bad it's NOT a perfect world where everyone gets along (I mean that).

Too bad we can't always be in good moods or feel like making sure we word things in just a way that no one can even have a CHANCE at taking it the wrong way.

Too bad that the people willing/able to answer questions aren't willing/able to answer ALL the questions ALL the time.

And a BIG too bad that the people always complaining about the way questions get answered (and the way the site is run), RARELY EVER answer questions themselves.

But I think it’s NOT too bad that there are people making light of things and making jokes here and there. I wouldn’t enjoy this site HALF as much if I didn’t get to LOL a few times a day (and I do mean actually laughing out loud) or al LEAST cracking a smile here and there.

There, I've got that off my chest now!

I'm sure that sounded harsher than I meant it to be but that's just the way it came out. I don’t have the time or desire to tip-toe around it at this exact moment. No offence to those whose exact issue that is.

Does this site have its short-comings? For sure.

Is it still a great site? Heck, yeah!

Can it be improved? I'm sure it could.

I think threads like this are great. It's always a good thing to bounce ideas around. I think the best idea so far is a "newbie" forum for snakes and one for lizards. But I DO think it will play-out how Marisa predicted. Questions won't be posted there that SHOULD be and some that shouldn't be posted there WILL be. That's just the nature of the beast. It's more work for the MODS, so I say it's totally their call. I will visit the forums and answer WHAT I can WHEN I feel like it. I like helping people out. I may not word things very gingerly at times (try living with me!

), but I AM aware of it and I am ALWAYS trying to work on it.

Anyway, enough rambling from my big mouth!

EDIT: The last bit of the 2nd last paragraph may have sounded like I consider MYSELF an expert, but I don't. I know what I know and I don't know what I don't know. I'm just here to learn too.

Matt_K · 12-28-04, 04:52 PM

Well said Tim!

I think 9/10 times when people think someone is being harsh, they're really not.. Once you get to know people on the site and see the way they actually are, you can really pick up on the jokes and puns people use VERY often..

I know that personally I have a had a few people talk to me AFTER thinking that I was rude or harsh to them, and saying, 'wow, I thought you were an as$hole'. In most cases, it's just the way that people interperet what you've said, too bad they're usually wrong.!

-Matt