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04-14-04, 12:58 PM
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Join Date: Apr-2004
Location: Kingston Ontario Canada
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Bearded Dragon Tank..Size?????
Hello. I am new to this stuff. We (me and my kids) are planning on purchasing a Bearded dragon as soon as they get some in at the pet store. I have been doing my research on habitat but I am still unsure on the size of tank that I should get. Is 36x18x18 good(50 gallon). The have one that size at the pet store with sliding doors at the front. Or should I go for the 65 gal which actually is cheaper but has no doors on the front(I thought that they were a nice option). And I just saw a 100 gallon in the paper which won't hold water so it is cheap. 72x20x20 .Too big?? What if we were to end up with two BDs some day? How big would the tank have to be?
Just wnat to do the right thing the first time.
Thanks!!
GP212
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04-14-04, 01:39 PM
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Location: St. Louis, MO
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With beardies the BIGGER the better. For 1 beardie IMO i would suggest at least a 55 gallon or a 4x2x2 would be better though. If you can get the 100 gallon i say go for it, your future beardie will love you for all that space. 2 beardies minimum 75 gallon.
You can house 2 beardies together but make sure they are either Male & female or 2 females. Males tend to fight so you don't want to house 2 males together. Sometimes females will fight (it's rare), if you house a pair together watch for the male being over aggressive or stress on the female from the male wanting to breed, and don't house a male and female together unless the female is over 18 months old (so they don't breed to soon).
If you have any other questions feel free to ask, there are plenty of people that can help out, and welcome to ssnakess.
Jamie
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04-14-04, 01:44 PM
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Join Date: Apr-2004
Location: Kingston Ontario Canada
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Thankyou so much for your reply!!!!!I think that I might get that tank.
Well if I do get the 6 foot long 100 gallon tank will I need a 6 foot long UV light?
And will if be hard to keep the temperatures up?
thanks again!!!
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04-14-04, 01:48 PM
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Location: Edmonton, Alberta
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Good advice from Drewlowe, as usual.
One thing I might suggest is to find a better place to get your beardie from than the pet store. There are some good pet stores out there, but most big pet stores are notorious for high prices, poor advice and poor animals. I see that you are in Ontario...I think there may be a show & sale coming up somewhere. That would be an ideal place to get a beardie and talk to people who can give some really good first-hand advice. Not to mention that your kids (& you) would have a ton of fun at the show.
If you can't do that, there are lots of breeders and people selling beardies who can probably give you a much better price than the pet store.
Oh, and Welcome to the site
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04-14-04, 01:49 PM
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Hey Jamie I was just checkin out your profile and I see that it is your birthday. Happy birthday dude!!!!!!!!!!!!
It is my sons birthday today as well. The BD is for him
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04-14-04, 01:52 PM
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You wont need a full length UV light. If you are going with the tube, 3-4 feet should be OK.
As long as the tank is in a room that's not too cold...you really only have to worry about the temp of the basking spot. So the size of the tank won't matter (heat wise). Just that you have an appropriate basking spot.
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04-14-04, 01:57 PM
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Thanks Mike.
The price at this store is $115 Canadian of course taxes included. That is for a "baby". When they get them.
How do I find out about a show?
And how do I find a breeder that I know is any good?
Thanks again you guys
Glenn0
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04-14-04, 02:05 PM
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Thanks Big mike, you made me blush LOL
GP212- Thanks, it's actually 1 month off, EKKK to imagine i'm going to be 25 in exactly one month. Happy B-day to your son!!!
I'm with big mike on the flouresent fixture i would get one that is 3 or 4 feet (probly the 4 foot one). Make sure you use either ZooMed 5.0 or Exo Terra 5.0 they are the best uvb bulbs on the market IMO. "if" you opt for the 100 gallon i would set up 2 basking spots on each end, and have the middle as the "cool" side (specially if you get 2 beardies). I would pick up a digital themometer at walmart for around 10-15 bucks so you know for sure what the temps are. They should have a basking spot between 100-115 (beardies are all different). You may have to play around with different wattages to get the desired temp you want. You should set the enclosure up in advance to getting your beardie that way you know everything is "just fine".
Beardies make a wonderfull addition, i absolutly love mine!!!
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04-14-04, 02:10 PM
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Location: Edmonton, Alberta
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Port Credit Pets show...April 18 http://www.ssnakess.com/forums/showt...threadid=41209
Check the list of exhibitors, I'm sure there will some beardie breeders. If not, just try a google search.
$115 for a normal beardie baby is way too much. For that much you should be able to get a good color morph. A regular beardie baby at a show should be less than $50. The shows that I have been to, usually have lots of beardies so the selection is great.
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04-14-04, 02:18 PM
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Sorry Jamie. I don't know what I was thinkin. It is April isn't it. Wishful thinkin I guess.
Thanks for all of the help!!!!!!!!
Glenn
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04-14-04, 02:33 PM
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Quote:
Originally posted by GP212
Sorry Jamie. I don't know what I was thinkin. It is April isn't it. Wishful thinkin I guess.
Thanks for all of the help!!!!!!!!
Glenn
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No worries, Your just early that's all.
Your welcome, anytime we can help we try.
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1.2 Bearded dragons (Login, Raven, & Jean Grey) 1.1.1 Corn snakes(Havoc,Sable, & Kink0 1.5 Leo's (Psyloke (Lucky-male) Speedball, Domino, Rouge, Siren, Elektra) 1.0 Veiled Chams (Neo), 0.1 Rose Hair T. (Night Crawler) 0.0.3 Crested Geckos (Shiva, Storm, Beast) 0.2 Kenyan Sand Boas (Tigra & Cloak)
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04-15-04, 05:53 AM
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Location: Dorset, England
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Hey
I suggest getting the bearded dragon manual by phillipe de vosjoli, it is the best retile book series ever, and will answer every question for you
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04-15-04, 06:16 AM
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Join Date: Jun-2003
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hey Glenn,
I sent you a private message. I breed bearded dragons, and I have 2 unrelated clutches of babies that are ready to hatch any week now. I'm from Ontario as well. Check your private messages, or e-mail me at squan3@uwo.ca and we'll go from there
thanks
Steve
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04-16-04, 12:41 AM
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Join Date: Mar-2003
Location: Southwestern Ontairo
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Hiya GP212 like Big Mike said getting a baby beardie from a breeder is the way to go IMO and from talking to her and seeing her beardies I would talk to Iculizard as well as any other of the breeders right here on Ssnakess. Getting a beardie from a breeder is always better and most will always have the information and answer any question you have. Hope you have fun with your soon to be addition they are get to have .
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04-17-04, 05:41 PM
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I wouldn't bother getting a fluorescent UV tube light for your beardies. They are pretty much worthless, they give off very little UV (24 hours is the equivalent of 5 minutes of natural sunlight  ), the UV light doesn't reach much more than 12" from the bulb, is further depleted by any screen (I think only 30% comes through). The only bulbs that output any significant levels of UV are the Powersun basking lights.
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